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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Want to teach something "critical" in public school? Teach critical thinking. Teach how to spot bias or loaded reporting. Teach students to look for what isn't said or written, as much as what is.

    The Founders knew it took an educated populace to successfully make a republic. Educate the young minds of mush with what they need to know, instead of the flavor of the moment.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Want to teach something "critical" in public school? Teach critical thinking. Teach how to spot bias or loaded reporting. Teach students to look for what isn't said or written, as much as what is.

        The Founders knew it took an educated populace to successfully make a republic. Educate the young minds of mush with what they need to know, instead of the flavor of the moment.

        MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        @jolly said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

        Want to teach something "critical" in public school? Teach critical thinking. Teach how to spot bias or loaded reporting. Teach students to look for what isn't said or written, as much as what is.

        The Founders knew it took an educated populace to successfully make a republic. Educate the young minds of mush with what they need to know, instead of the flavor of the moment.

        Indeed. if your side is right, they will see that. If you have to indoctrinate them you aren't right.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          That lawyer needs a big boy haircut.

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          • George KG Offline
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            I just listened to Andy McCarthy's podcast on this.

            There's one interesting comment: The guy who survived, Grosskreutz, pointed a handgun at Rittenhouse (which he denies on TV but admits under oath). His permit for such weapon was expired and therefore it was illegal.

            McCarthy asks (rhetorically, I assume): Why isn't the state prosecuting him for a gun crime?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              I just listened to Andy McCarthy's podcast on this.

              There's one interesting comment: The guy who survived, Grosskreutz, pointed a handgun at Rittenhouse (which he denies on TV but admits under oath). His permit for such weapon was expired and therefore it was illegal.

              McCarthy asks (rhetorically, I assume): Why isn't the state prosecuting him for a gun crime?

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              @george-k said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

              I just listened to Andy McCarthy's podcast on this.

              There's one interesting comment: The guy who survived, Grosskreutz, pointed a handgun at Rittenhouse (which he denies on TV but admits under oath). His permit for such weapon was expired and therefore it was illegal.

              McCarthy asks (rhetorically, I assume): Why isn't the state prosecuting him for a gun crime?

              http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaige.pdf

              This was expunged. But at the time of the shooting, I think he was still a felon, which definitely makes the gun illegal.

              http://www.kenoshacountyeye.com/gaigeburgcomp.pdf

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #105

                    @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                    I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @George-K I think I’ve only seen that guy’s name here and it was a discussion about him making shit up out of whole cloth.

                      I apologize in advance if I have the name wrong.

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                      #106

                      @jon-nyc Posobiec?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Yeah

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Not to worry whether this entirely plausible thing might be true. not to worry that a little reflection would lead any reasonable person to conclude that retribution is on the mind of every one of those jurors, regardless of how much weight they try to give it. You are a centrist, and do not have to own anything having to do with either political side.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Yeah

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                            @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                            Yeah

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              @Horace

                              It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                              Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                              As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                              Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Horace

                                It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                                Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                                As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                                Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

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                                @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                @Horace

                                It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                                Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                                As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                                Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

                                I didn't claim he was speaking the truth. Pre-TDS jon 1.0 had better reading comprehension than that. My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  #112

                                  Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

                                  That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    @Horace

                                    It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                                    Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                                    As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                                    Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                    serial fabulist (Pobosiec)

                                    I really know nothing about this guy.

                                    Care to elaborate on the "serial" stuff?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      #114

                                      I remember last time he had some great inside scoop and it turned out to be bullshit it came out in the discussion here that he does this stuff a lot. He works/worked at OANN, so that's a feature not a bug in terms of his career.

                                      But I don't remember all the details, I'm sure google does.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

                                        That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                        Yeah I’m really invested in making sure BLM activists don’t come off as intimidating jurors.

                                        That should be obvious to everyone who watched me reflexively defend them from Furguson to Portland.

                                        I bet you've even catalogued in your head that one time you said something negative about the Biden administration.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                          @Horace

                                          It’s far more plausible that jurors are worried about it than that this serial fabulist and attention seeker has the “inside scoop”.

                                          Sometimes black people get targeted for their race. Doesn’t change the fact that Jessie Smollett was talking shit for clicks and status.

                                          As a centrist I have the special ability to zoom out a tenth of a nanometer to realize this OANN pilgrim is likely doing the same thing.

                                          Horace 1.0 would have seen it too.

                                          I didn't claim he was speaking the truth. Pre-TDS jon 1.0 had better reading comprehension than that. My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

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                                          #116

                                          @horace said in The Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha:

                                          My point was the plausibility and the conclusions that would be drawn by a reasonable person about retribution being on the mind of the jurors. jon 1.0 might have been willing to engage in that discussion, rather than running from something that makes his tribe look bad.

                                          By the way, I have a 12 year old so I am fully aware of the lure of "I know you are but what am I". But not only am I willing to engage in discussions of the possibility, I said as much in the post you are responding to.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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