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Nah, ain’t about politics at all

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 18:17 last edited by
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    Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

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    • L LuFins Dad
      29 Oct 2021, 18:17

      Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 18:30 last edited by
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      @lufins-dad said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

      My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

      Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

      I was only joking

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      • L LuFins Dad
        29 Oct 2021, 18:17

        Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

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        bachophile
        wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 18:36 last edited by
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        @lufins-dad no I bet the Republican numbers would be higher. And yes the Democrats lower. Phibes is so right. People are stupid.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 18:44 last edited by
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          The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

          I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            29 Oct 2021, 18:44

            The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

            I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 18:59 last edited by
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            @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

            The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

            I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

            Yep. I'd amend that to say that folks who have no problem with the vaccines, but for medical reasons have either decided or have been advised not to get one themselves, don't fit into that category.

            But yeah, exceptions aside, morons.

            Please love yourself.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              29 Oct 2021, 18:59

              @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

              The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

              I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

              Yep. I'd amend that to say that folks who have no problem with the vaccines, but for medical reasons have either decided or have been advised not to get one themselves, don't fit into that category.

              But yeah, exceptions aside, morons.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 19:07 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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              @aqua-letifer said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

              I'd amend that to say that folks who have no problem with the vaccines, but for medical reasons have either decided or have been advised not to get one themselves, don't fit into that category.

              Sure, there are medical reasons, and there may be other valid reasons too, but as a movement, it's not humanity's finest hour. And I don't mean just Covid, but the whole anti-vaccination bollocks.

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                29 Oct 2021, 18:44

                The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

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                George K
                wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 19:41 last edited by
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                @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  29 Oct 2021, 19:41

                  @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                  The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                  Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 19:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                  @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                  The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                  Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                  Sure. It was an incredibly stupid, and also a highly cynical thing to say. They should be ashamed of themselves.

                  Any other questions? 😀

                  I was only joking

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                    29 Oct 2021, 18:30

                    @lufins-dad said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                    My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

                    Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 20:00 last edited by
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                    @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                    Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

                    It's worse than that

                    They are no darned good

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                    • G George K
                      29 Oct 2021, 19:41

                      @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                      The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                      Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 22:10 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                      Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                      WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                      Never heard of it.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • R Renauda
                        29 Oct 2021, 22:10

                        @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                        Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                        WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                        Never heard of it.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 22:14 last edited by
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                        @renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                        WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                        Never heard of it.

                        Link to video

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • B bachophile
                          29 Oct 2021, 15:16

                          i accept the fact there are people who dont trust government.

                          what i find hard to accept is using that as a reason not to get vaccinated.

                          the government didn't invent vaccines.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 00:55 last edited by
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                          @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                          the government didn't invent vaccines.

                          A Turkish immigrant in Germany did.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • R Renauda
                            29 Oct 2021, 22:10

                            @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                            Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                            WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                            Never heard of it.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:01 last edited by
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                            @renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                            WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                            Unlike the ones where you need a booster shot, it's the one where they give you one really annoying prick.

                            I was only joking

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:05 last edited by
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                              Think y'all missed a big'un.

                              Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.

                              1. Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
                              2. COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
                              3. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                30 Oct 2021, 01:05

                                Think y'all missed a big'un.

                                Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.

                                1. Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
                                2. COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
                                3. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
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                                xenon
                                wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:38 last edited by xenon
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                                @jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                1. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.

                                This is the one that gets me. I believe you, they’re less fearful… BUT their fear of vaccine > fear of Covid.

                                I’m probably more nonchalant to the chances of getting Covid than most I know, but I didn’t even think twice about side effects for the vaccine.

                                We’ve been pumping ourselves and our kids with those for decades (to great effect)

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 01:44 last edited by
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                                  How many here have had COVID? 👋

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    30 Oct 2021, 01:44

                                    How many here have had COVID? 👋

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 5 Nov 2021, 13:27 last edited by
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                                    @jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                    How many here have had COVID? 👋

                                    I have

                                    But I still follow the rules

                                    Because science

                                    ![alt text](cd93ec82-17b2-40a7-8929-b942f8a1e26d-image.png image url)

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 5 Nov 2021, 13:55 last edited by
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                                      That's funny.😂😂

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • X xenon
                                        29 Oct 2021, 15:20

                                        @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                                        It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

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                                        brenda
                                        wrote on 5 Nov 2021, 14:55 last edited by
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                                        @xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                        @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                                        It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

                                        I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.

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                                        • brendaB brenda
                                          5 Nov 2021, 14:55

                                          @xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                          @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                                          It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

                                          I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 6 Nov 2021, 02:47 last edited by
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                                          @brenda I think you are right.

                                          When people are asked if they will get vaccinated (for job reasons, etc), there is a relatively "high" percent that say they would never do it.

                                          For example, one US medical group workers said that 20% or so would not get vaccinated.

                                          However, when final results were in, the un-vaccinated were less than a couple %.

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