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Nah, ain’t about politics at all

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  • bachophileB bachophile

    i accept the fact there are people who dont trust government.

    what i find hard to accept is using that as a reason not to get vaccinated.

    the government didn't invent vaccines.

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    Renauda
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    #24

    @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

    the government didn't invent vaccines.

    Good point. Despite its regulatory and enforcement authority and responsibility, government is only one of several messengers in support of mass vaccination.

    But I do agree, it is political or so it is where I live. Thankfully, the argument that vaccine mandates violate the Nuremberg Accord rings hollow and just isn’t convincing to most folks to support the cause.

    Elbows up!

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      Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

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        @lufins-dad said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

        My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

        Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

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          @lufins-dad no I bet the Republican numbers would be higher. And yes the Democrats lower. Phibes is so right. People are stupid.

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            The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

            I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

              I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

              The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

              I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

              Yep. I'd amend that to say that folks who have no problem with the vaccines, but for medical reasons have either decided or have been advised not to get one themselves, don't fit into that category.

              But yeah, exceptions aside, morons.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

                Yep. I'd amend that to say that folks who have no problem with the vaccines, but for medical reasons have either decided or have been advised not to get one themselves, don't fit into that category.

                But yeah, exceptions aside, morons.

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                @aqua-letifer said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                I'd amend that to say that folks who have no problem with the vaccines, but for medical reasons have either decided or have been advised not to get one themselves, don't fit into that category.

                Sure, there are medical reasons, and there may be other valid reasons too, but as a movement, it's not humanity's finest hour. And I don't mean just Covid, but the whole anti-vaccination bollocks.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                  I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

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                  @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                  The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                  Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                    The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                    Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

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                    @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                    The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                    Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                    Sure. It was an incredibly stupid, and also a highly cynical thing to say. They should be ashamed of themselves.

                    Any other questions? 😀

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @lufins-dad said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                      My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

                      Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

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                      @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                      Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

                      It's worse than that

                      They are no darned good

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                      • George KG George K

                        @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                        The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                        Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

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                        @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                        Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                        WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                        Never heard of it.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                          Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                          WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                          Never heard of it.

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                          @renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                          WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                          Never heard of it.

                          Link to video

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • bachophileB bachophile

                            i accept the fact there are people who dont trust government.

                            what i find hard to accept is using that as a reason not to get vaccinated.

                            the government didn't invent vaccines.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                            the government didn't invent vaccines.

                            A Turkish immigrant in Germany did.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              @george-k said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                              Does that include the winners of the presidential and vice-presidential election who said they would never take a "Trump vaccine?"

                              WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                              Never heard of it.

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                              @renauda said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                              WTF is a Trump vaccine?

                              Unlike the ones where you need a booster shot, it's the one where they give you one really annoying prick.

                              I was only joking

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                                Think y'all missed a big'un.

                                Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.

                                1. Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
                                2. COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
                                3. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Think y'all missed a big'un.

                                  Country folks are vaccinated at lower rates, especially among younger people. There's several reasons at play.

                                  1. Country folks are conservative, for the most part. While most of the older people are vaxxed, a lot of the younger ones have adopted a wait and see attitude.
                                  2. COVID doesn't seem to be quite as rampant as in town. Maybe it's because country folks are more spread out and probably outside more.
                                  3. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.
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                                  @jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                  1. Country folks tend to be more religious, at least down here. Maybe it's fatalism or maybe it's a deep faith in the afterlife, but many simply refuse to live in fear. If they get it, they get it. They get better or die. If they die, there's something better on the other side.

                                  This is the one that gets me. I believe you, they’re less fearful… BUT their fear of vaccine > fear of Covid.

                                  I’m probably more nonchalant to the chances of getting Covid than most I know, but I didn’t even think twice about side effects for the vaccine.

                                  We’ve been pumping ourselves and our kids with those for decades (to great effect)

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                                    How many here have had COVID? 👋

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      How many here have had COVID? 👋

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                                      @jolly said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                      How many here have had COVID? 👋

                                      I have

                                      But I still follow the rules

                                      Because science

                                      ![alt text](cd93ec82-17b2-40a7-8929-b942f8a1e26d-image.png image url)

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                                        Jolly
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                                        That's funny.😂😂

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • X xenon

                                          @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                                          It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

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                                          @xenon said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                          @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

                                          It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

                                          I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is vaccination going on behind the backs of family and friends. I wish more would.

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