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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    Why the sudden fuss about something that has been going on for decades?

    I work with somebody who used to carry out experiments on monkeys. He’s a very nice guy.

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    @doctor-phibes said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

    Why the sudden fuss about something that has been going on for decades?

    I work with somebody who used to carry out experiments on monkeys. He’s a very nice guy.

    Nature of the experiment.

    Animals have been used for many years. Beagles were one of the prime animals in verifying the link between cigarettes and lung cancer. But in any experiment, you treat the animals as humanely as possible.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      @jon-nyc said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

      @axtremus said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

      Lousy reporting that doesn't tell you when the alleged experiment took place, does not specify which US program provided the funding, does not tell you when the funding was appropriated. Given the speed of internal government work, if the experiment has already taken place, chances are good that the funds were appropriated under the Trump administration. "Trump kills puppies!"

      I went to the “white coat waste project” website. It’s not the kind of group that documents their claims.

      Same story is at The Hill, which is probably where they got it from.

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      @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

      @jon-nyc said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

      @axtremus said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

      Lousy reporting that doesn't tell you when the alleged experiment took place, does not specify which US program provided the funding, does not tell you when the funding was appropriated. Given the speed of internal government work, if the experiment has already taken place, chances are good that the funds were appropriated under the Trump administration. "Trump kills puppies!"

      I went to the “white coat waste project” website. It’s not the kind of group that documents their claims.

      Same story is at The Hill, which is probably where they got it from.

      Right - it was the Hill article that sent me to the White Coat Waste Project. That’s the source of this.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

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          @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

          Even assuming the "White Coat Waste Project" got the facts straight (a leap of considerable faith), it seems to me you wouldn't have to know too much about how the world works to figure that Fauci doesn't actually read and approve all of the NIH's grants. If you were unsure, a quick google could inform you that NIH has 20k employees and makes ~50,000 grants a year.

          I sit on a grant review committee. Reading 20 is hard work (admittedly I'm a non-scientist, but still).

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

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            @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

            Alternative reply:

            "When you tweet stupid shit like this, you're probably not on the side of the 'smart guys'."

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              I don't much care if it is stupid shit. If it's effective, it may be shit, but it ain't stupid.
              Just pounding another nail in the coffin.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                Even assuming the "White Coat Waste Project" got the facts straight (a leap of considerable faith), it seems to me you wouldn't have to know too much about how the world works to figure that Fauci doesn't actually read and approve all of the NIH's grants. If you were unsure, a quick google could inform you that NIH has 20k employees and makes ~50,000 grants a year.

                I sit on a grant review committee. Reading 20 is hard work (admittedly I'm a non-scientist, but still).

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                @jon-nyc said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                Even assuming the "White Coat Waste Project" got the facts straight (a leap of considerable faith), it seems to me you wouldn't have to know too much about how the world works to figure that Fauci doesn't actually read and approve all of the NIH's grants. …

                Even then, chances are that the grant was approved/appropriated while Trump was in the White House, making Trump the side “who approved beagle pups be locked in cages so their faces can be eaten alive by giant sandflies, with the dogs having had their vocal chords severed so they cannot cry out in pain...”

                I sit on a grant review committee. Reading 20 is hard work (admittedly I'm a non-scientist, but still).

                Why not get a scientist to do that work for you? 😉

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @jon-nyc said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                  @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                  Even assuming the "White Coat Waste Project" got the facts straight (a leap of considerable faith), it seems to me you wouldn't have to know too much about how the world works to figure that Fauci doesn't actually read and approve all of the NIH's grants. …

                  Even then, chances are that the grant was approved/appropriated while Trump was in the White House, making Trump the side “who approved beagle pups be locked in cages so their faces can be eaten alive by giant sandflies, with the dogs having had their vocal chords severed so they cannot cry out in pain...”

                  I sit on a grant review committee. Reading 20 is hard work (admittedly I'm a non-scientist, but still).

                  Why not get a scientist to do that work for you? 😉

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                  @axtremus said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                  Why not get a scientist to do that work for you?

                  A few dozen scientists sit on the committee with me.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    I don't much care if it is stupid shit. If it's effective, it may be shit, but it ain't stupid.
                    Just pounding another nail in the coffin.

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                    @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                    I don't much care if it is stupid shit. If it's effective, it may be shit, but it ain't stupid.

                    We’ve seen the short-bus defense theories, this is the short-bus offense theory.

                    But of course you’re right. This one even resonated with you, apparently, and you surely know better.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Of course. But if there's anything I learned from Russia! Russia! Russia!, perception is reality in politics. Even strong enough to impeach a President.

                      So if a lying Dr. Fauxi can be painted with tar of a dubious nature, hand me another bucket of the sticky stuff.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Of course. But if there's anything I learned from Russia! Russia! Russia!, perception is reality in politics. Even strong enough to impeach a President.

                        So if a lying Dr. Fauxi can be painted with tar of a dubious nature, hand me another bucket of the sticky stuff.

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                        @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                        Of course. But if there's anything I learned from Russia! Russia! Russia!, perception is reality in politics. Even strong enough to impeach a President.

                        But you are wrong, it wasn’t “Russia” that led to Trump’s impeachment. It was Ukraine that led to Trump’s first impeachment, and it was a riot at the Capitol that led to Trump’s second impeachment.

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                          Sure

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                              Even assuming the "White Coat Waste Project" got the facts straight (a leap of considerable faith), it seems to me you wouldn't have to know too much about how the world works to figure that Fauci doesn't actually read and approve all of the NIH's grants. If you were unsure, a quick google could inform you that NIH has 20k employees and makes ~50,000 grants a year.

                              I sit on a grant review committee. Reading 20 is hard work (admittedly I'm a non-scientist, but still).

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                              @jon-nyc said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                              it seems to me you wouldn't have to know too much about how the world works to figure that Fauci doesn't actually read and approve all of the NIH's grants.

                              Are you sure about this? It's not like he has anything much to do besides fucking up Americans' lives and infuriating the Right. Once those two things are rolling, they pretty much snowball on their own, no?

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                Not sure how Fauci has time to read grant proposals, with how busy he is killing puppies.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Not sure how Fauci has time to read grant proposals, with how busy he is killing puppies.

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                                  @horace said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                                  Not sure how Fauci has time to read grant proposals, with how busy he is killing puppies.

                                  He had time to read the Wuhan proposal, because he talked about it more than once.

                                  Not directly, but Fauxi helped create the Wuhan Virus.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    LOL, I have a work based acquaintance/friend that has spent the last 18 month evangelizing two things; The greatness of Fauci and her love of Beagles. She hasn’t posted anything on Facebook in days and must be apoplectic.

                                    The Brad

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                                      LOL, I have a work based acquaintance/friend that has spent the last 18 month evangelizing two things; The greatness of Fauci and her love of Beagles. She hasn’t posted anything on Facebook in days and must be apoplectic.

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                                      @lufins-dad said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                                      LOL, I have a work based acquaintance/friend that has spent the last 18 month evangelizing two things; The greatness of Fauci and her love of Beagles. She hasn’t posted anything on Facebook in days and must be apoplectic.

                                      As a wise man pointed out to me, Beagle lives matter!

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @horace said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                                        Not sure how Fauci has time to read grant proposals, with how busy he is killing puppies.

                                        He had time to read the Wuhan proposal, because he talked about it more than once.

                                        Not directly, but Fauxi helped create the Wuhan Virus.

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                                        @jolly said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                                        @horace said in Fauci Kills Puppies:

                                        Not sure how Fauci has time to read grant proposals, with how busy he is killing puppies.

                                        He had time to read the Wuhan proposal, because he talked about it more than once.

                                        Not directly, but Fauxi helped create the Wuhan Virus.

                                        Seems reasonable to think so. Certainly the connection is strong enough to be used as fair play in politics. I guess left-leaning people who ever once stuck up for Trump against all the nonsense thrown at him, would have the moral authority to claim otherwise. (Crickets.)

                                        Education is extremely important.

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