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To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?

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    Horace
    wrote on 26 Sept 2021, 19:57 last edited by
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    My wife an I are in the process of procuring her permanent green card. She was given her temporary green card a year or more ago, but there is another process to get the permanent card. Another application and documentation process, where we must prove that our marriage is real. I am not big on taking pictures, and my home is in my name, since I bought it long before we met. My utilities are in my name. I've already provided them documentation of her life here, her jobs here. I'm not big on taking pictures with her holding a copy of today's newspaper, since I did not in fact abduct her and am not asking for ransom, but that's mostly what the government wants. I think mostly the nameless faceless government tool stamping the application wants to see photo evidence of my penis inside her vagina, I think that would seal the deal. Do you think I should send pornography? Is our cultural obsession with pornography ultimately in service of establishing the reality of a relationship, so we know that some horrible Asian woman isn't entering the country illegally by manipulating some tool of a white man into marrying her? Do we really prefer Mexican illegals that much, that we need pornography to establish that a prospective Asian woman immigrant is as good as a Mexican illegal?

    Education is extremely important.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 26 Sept 2021, 20:02 last edited by
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      It me 9 months to get permanent residency in Canada. It took me 7 years in the US, and more money paid to lawyers than I'd like to talk about.

      That's the price you pay for being the freest country in the universe.

      I was only joking

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        Mik
        wrote on 26 Sept 2021, 20:08 last edited by
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        What counts as interference? I have run afoul of a few pesky laws.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Jolly
          wrote on 26 Sept 2021, 20:14 last edited by
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          Getting a permanent Green Card is a PITA. But...ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

          Just lay back and think of England, and let the boffins do what they need to do...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • H Horace
            26 Sept 2021, 19:57

            My wife an I are in the process of procuring her permanent green card. She was given her temporary green card a year or more ago, but there is another process to get the permanent card. Another application and documentation process, where we must prove that our marriage is real. I am not big on taking pictures, and my home is in my name, since I bought it long before we met. My utilities are in my name. I've already provided them documentation of her life here, her jobs here. I'm not big on taking pictures with her holding a copy of today's newspaper, since I did not in fact abduct her and am not asking for ransom, but that's mostly what the government wants. I think mostly the nameless faceless government tool stamping the application wants to see photo evidence of my penis inside her vagina, I think that would seal the deal. Do you think I should send pornography? Is our cultural obsession with pornography ultimately in service of establishing the reality of a relationship, so we know that some horrible Asian woman isn't entering the country illegally by manipulating some tool of a white man into marrying her? Do we really prefer Mexican illegals that much, that we need pornography to establish that a prospective Asian woman immigrant is as good as a Mexican illegal?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 26 Sept 2021, 20:27 last edited by
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            @horace said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

            so we know that some horrible Asian woman isn't entering the country illegally by manipulating some tool of a white man into marrying her?

            No photo could ever disprove this.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 01:21 last edited by Renauda
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              I had no issue either sponsoring my wife as a Landed Immigrant ( the CDN equivalent of a permanent US Green Card ) or naturalizing our adopted infant son. In the case of the latter I did make an error on the application form but the Immigration Ministry notified me of my error and gave me more than sufficient opportunity to correct it. All in all I have had very good experience with government intrusion. The only people I know who have not...well, let's just say they flew plenty of flags to get unwanted attention and scrutiny. One thing they all had in common was surprise and indignation that they happened to come under the microscope.

              Elbows up!

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              • R Renauda
                27 Sept 2021, 01:21

                I had no issue either sponsoring my wife as a Landed Immigrant ( the CDN equivalent of a permanent US Green Card ) or naturalizing our adopted infant son. In the case of the latter I did make an error on the application form but the Immigration Ministry notified me of my error and gave me more than sufficient opportunity to correct it. All in all I have had very good experience with government intrusion. The only people I know who have not...well, let's just say they flew plenty of flags to get unwanted attention and scrutiny. One thing they all had in common was surprise and indignation that they happened to come under the microscope.

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                Horace
                wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 01:41 last edited by
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                @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                I had no issue either sponsoring my wife as a Landed Immigrant ( the CDN equivalent of a permanent US Green Card ) or naturalizing our adopted infant son. In the case of the latter I did make an error on the application form but the Immigration Ministry notified me of my error and gave me more than sufficient opportunity to correct it. All in all I have had very good experience with government intrusion. The only people I know who have not...well, let's just say they flew plenty of flags to get unwanted attention and scrutiny. One thing they all had in common was surprise and indignation that they happened to come under the microscope.

                Wow lol. It’s like you want to be a douche. By the way I notice you are a small and cowardly douche. I would indeed say that to your face. You are a nothing burger. Prove me wrong lol.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 03:39 last edited by
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                  You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

                  And now you're complaining.

                  You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

                  Yes, of course you do.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • R Renauda
                    27 Sept 2021, 03:39

                    You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

                    And now you're complaining.

                    You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

                    Yes, of course you do.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 03:48 last edited by
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                    @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                    You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

                    And now you're complaining.

                    You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

                    Yes, of course you do.

                    Little man Renauda, Johnny on the spot with the compatriot experiences. Totally not about ankle biting those he dislikes. Oh no. He is fooling everybody. Mostly because he knows historical anecdotes. Super smart. And also compassionate. Not an angry little loser at all.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 12:23 last edited by
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                      I was only joking

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                      • H Horace
                        27 Sept 2021, 03:48

                        @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                        You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

                        And now you're complaining.

                        You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

                        Yes, of course you do.

                        Little man Renauda, Johnny on the spot with the compatriot experiences. Totally not about ankle biting those he dislikes. Oh no. He is fooling everybody. Mostly because he knows historical anecdotes. Super smart. And also compassionate. Not an angry little loser at all.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 13:15 last edited by
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                        @horace said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                        @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                        You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

                        And now you're complaining.

                        You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

                        Yes, of course you do.

                        Little man Renauda, Johnny on the spot with the compatriot experiences. Totally not about ankle biting those he dislikes. Oh no. He is fooling everybody. Mostly because he knows historical anecdotes. Super smart. And also compassionate. Not an angry little loser at all.

                        I wish I could say sorry about your rug but I'm not all that compassionate. But if you think I'm an angry loser think again and look at yourself.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 13:27 last edited by
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                          Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                          • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                          • Shared bank/investment accounts
                          • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                          • Have children together

                          Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                          ImprovisoI 1 Reply Last reply 27 Sept 2021, 16:06
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                            27 Sept 2021, 12:23

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 15:27 last edited by
                            #13

                            @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

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                            lol

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus
                              27 Sept 2021, 13:27

                              Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                              • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                              • Shared bank/investment accounts
                              • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                              • Have children together

                              Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

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                              Improviso
                              wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 16:06 last edited by
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                              @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                              Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                              • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                              • Shared bank/investment accounts
                              • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                              • Have children together

                              Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                              @Horace

                              DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                              IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                              Ask me how I know.... 😥

                              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                              • ImprovisoI Improviso
                                27 Sept 2021, 16:06

                                @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                                • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                                • Shared bank/investment accounts
                                • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                                • Have children together

                                Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                                @Horace

                                DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                                IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                                Ask me how I know.... 😥

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 16:24 last edited by
                                #15

                                @improviso said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                                • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                                • Shared bank/investment accounts
                                • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                                • Have children together

                                Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                                @Horace

                                DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                                IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                                Ask me how I know.... 😥

                                Heh. Well, the financial risk of the marriage is a done deal no matter what anyway.

                                Education is extremely important.

                                J 1 Reply Last reply 27 Sept 2021, 17:01
                                • H Horace
                                  27 Sept 2021, 16:24

                                  @improviso said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                  @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                  Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                                  • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                                  • Shared bank/investment accounts
                                  • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                                  • Have children together

                                  Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                                  @Horace

                                  DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                                  IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                                  Ask me how I know.... 😥

                                  Heh. Well, the financial risk of the marriage is a done deal no matter what anyway.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 17:01 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    27 Sept 2021, 17:01

                                    @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 17:37 last edited by
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                                    @jon-nyc said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                    @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

                                    Well, I've had an accretive four years... but yes there's a minority of assets not subject to community property laws.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 17:38 last edited by
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                                      Most romantic thread evah!

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 18:26 last edited by
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                                        Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          27 Sept 2021, 18:26

                                          Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 18:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                          @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                          Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                                          I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                                          I was only joking

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