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The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.

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  • I Improviso
    14 May 2020, 19:50

    @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

    I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

    This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

    If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 14 May 2020, 19:57 last edited by
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    @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

    @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

    I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

    This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

    If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

    It'll be two weeks between when you're at risk in your area, and when you'll know. And it's older people who are most at risk.

    Please love yourself.

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      14 May 2020, 19:57

      @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

      @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

      I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

      This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

      If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

      It'll be two weeks between when you're at risk in your area, and when you'll know. And it's older people who are most at risk.

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      Improviso
      wrote on 14 May 2020, 20:02 last edited by
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      @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

      And it's older people who are most at risk.

      It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

      Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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        xenon
        wrote on 14 May 2020, 20:03 last edited by xenon
        #34

        Trump toured a PPE factory today - and his whole entourage wore masks, except him.

        It would have been absolute comedy gold if he turned to the factory runner and said something like:: "So, who wears these? Medical workers and pussies, I presume"

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          Larry
          wrote on 14 May 2020, 20:18 last edited by
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          I can't find any masks. So I'm just going to start wearing a pair of my wife's panties on my face. That's where it is most of the time anyway.....

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          • I Improviso
            14 May 2020, 19:50

            @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

            I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

            This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

            If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 14 May 2020, 20:32 last edited by
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            @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

            @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

            I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

            This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

            If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

            Only one case in 30 days? Woohoo! Another family and we are going in on a house rental in Port Haywood. We've got some other friends staying in Onemo at the same time. We wanted to be closer, but those rentals are getting snatched up by people in DC. Everybody wants to get out of here for a few weeks with everything going on.

            Hey, does that covered area at Hole in the Wall on Gwynne count as outdoor seating? It should. Maybe we should get together for a beer while we're down there? You can meet Finley once his rash has cleared up...

            The Brad

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            • L LuFins Dad
              14 May 2020, 20:32

              @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

              This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

              If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

              Only one case in 30 days? Woohoo! Another family and we are going in on a house rental in Port Haywood. We've got some other friends staying in Onemo at the same time. We wanted to be closer, but those rentals are getting snatched up by people in DC. Everybody wants to get out of here for a few weeks with everything going on.

              Hey, does that covered area at Hole in the Wall on Gwynne count as outdoor seating? It should. Maybe we should get together for a beer while we're down there? You can meet Finley once his rash has cleared up...

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              Improviso
              wrote on 14 May 2020, 20:40 last edited by
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              @LuFins-Dad said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

              This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

              If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

              Only one case in 30 days? Woohoo! Another family and we are going in on a house rental in Port Haywood. We've got some other friends staying in Onemo at the same time. We wanted to be closer, but those rentals are getting snatched up by people in DC. Everybody wants to get out of here for a few weeks with everything going on.

              Hey, does that covered area at Hole in the Wall on Gwynne count as outdoor seating? It should. Maybe we should get together for a beer while we're down there? You can meet Finley once his rash has cleared up...

              Cool. Port Haywood is maybe 15 minutes from me and Hole in the Wall is about 10 minutes. It's actually 1 mile from me by water. Haven't been to HITW in a while. Nice outdoor seating overlooking Milford Haven. If it's open, I'd certainly like to meet up for a beer. When are you planning to be here?

              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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              • I Improviso
                14 May 2020, 20:02

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                And it's older people who are most at risk.

                It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

                Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 14 May 2020, 20:55 last edited by
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                @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                And it's older people who are most at risk.

                It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

                Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

                Fair enough.

                Please love yourself.

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                • I Improviso
                  14 May 2020, 20:02

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                  And it's older people who are most at risk.

                  It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

                  Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 14 May 2020, 21:01 last edited by
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                  @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                  And it's older people who are most at risk.

                  It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

                  Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

                  Maybe, maybe not. My sister-in-law is younger than you, with no co-morbidities except for being a little overweight. She saw a cardiologist today, for recurring chest pain, post- virus infection. He told her that she was still having problems with the virus, even though her antibody test was positive last Friday. There is cardiac, pulmonary and hepatic involvement.

                  In others news, how about a guy in his forties, who knows infection control better than most, that is in 5-10 mile run per day shape?

                  https://www.today.com/health/can-you-catch-covid-19-through-your-eyes-what-know-t181656

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 14 May 2020, 21:14 last edited by
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                    One of the most traumatic aspects of this pandemic is the realization that when people talk about 'Older People', they mean me.

                    I was only joking

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                      Improviso
                      wrote on 14 May 2020, 21:21 last edited by
                      #41

                      Wear it like a badge of honor. 🤠

                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                        Rainman
                        wrote on 14 May 2020, 22:02 last edited by
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                        I think the media presentation is one-sided.
                        Remember the videos showing people suffering, tubes sticking out, the look of fear if not horror, as the person was slowly suffocating to death?
                        That's not really shown any longer, at least on ABC which is the only local/national mainstream news we watch. If there were more pictures of what the virus does, the death and dying side, the ugly and the scary side, there would be people rethinking the macho no-mask necessary mentality.

                        I guess it's more fun to cover the argument, group the participants as either Left or Right, pro-Trump or anti-Trump, and turn it into a political game and endless clickbait.

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                        • RainmanR Rainman
                          14 May 2020, 22:02

                          I think the media presentation is one-sided.
                          Remember the videos showing people suffering, tubes sticking out, the look of fear if not horror, as the person was slowly suffocating to death?
                          That's not really shown any longer, at least on ABC which is the only local/national mainstream news we watch. If there were more pictures of what the virus does, the death and dying side, the ugly and the scary side, there would be people rethinking the macho no-mask necessary mentality.

                          I guess it's more fun to cover the argument, group the participants as either Left or Right, pro-Trump or anti-Trump, and turn it into a political game and endless clickbait.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 14 May 2020, 22:10 last edited by
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                          @Rainman said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                          I think the media presentation is one-sided.
                          Remember the videos showing people suffering, tubes sticking out, the look of fear if not horror, as the person was slowly suffocating to death?
                          That's not really shown any longer, at least on ABC which is the only local/national mainstream news we watch. If there were more pictures of what the virus does, the death and dying side, the ugly and the scary side, there would be people rethinking the macho no-mask necessary mentality.

                          I guess it's more fun to cover the argument, group the participants as either Left or Right, pro-Trump or anti-Trump, and turn it into a political game and endless clickbait.

                          Of course, it's how the game is played...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • I Improviso
                            14 May 2020, 20:40

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                            @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                            @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                            I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

                            This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

                            If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

                            Only one case in 30 days? Woohoo! Another family and we are going in on a house rental in Port Haywood. We've got some other friends staying in Onemo at the same time. We wanted to be closer, but those rentals are getting snatched up by people in DC. Everybody wants to get out of here for a few weeks with everything going on.

                            Hey, does that covered area at Hole in the Wall on Gwynne count as outdoor seating? It should. Maybe we should get together for a beer while we're down there? You can meet Finley once his rash has cleared up...

                            Cool. Port Haywood is maybe 15 minutes from me and Hole in the Wall is about 10 minutes. It's actually 1 mile from me by water. Haven't been to HITW in a while. Nice outdoor seating overlooking Milford Haven. If it's open, I'd certainly like to meet up for a beer. When are you planning to be here?

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 14 May 2020, 22:55 last edited by
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                            @Improviso LOL, that was meant to be a warning that your little county is soon going to be overrun with DC residents wanting to get onto the water in your wonderful little area just like every year. But this year, they will be bringing guests...

                            But what the hell, I was thinking of renting a place for few days...

                            The Brad

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                            • I Improviso
                              14 May 2020, 20:02

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                              And it's older people who are most at risk.

                              It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

                              Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 14 May 2020, 23:58 last edited by Mik
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                              @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                              And it's older people who are most at risk.

                              It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

                              Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

                              Does it say you will not spread it to anyone else who will in the contagious time between when you pick it up and become symptomatic? Or worse during the extended time you are asymptomatic but contagious? That’s not live and let live, but live and let die.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Rainman
                                wrote on 15 May 2020, 01:41 last edited by
                                #46

                                I could make a song out of that. . .

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 23 May 2020, 12:58 last edited by
                                  #47

                                  That’s San Antonio. Not east bumfuck.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 23 May 2020, 13:02 last edited by
                                    #48

                                    Jesus....

                                    ....will see you soon.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 23 May 2020, 13:03 last edited by
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                                      The stupid ...
                                      ... it just might kill.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                        23 May 2020, 12:58

                                        That’s San Antonio. Not east bumfuck.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 23 May 2020, 13:14 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                        That’s San Antonio. Not east bumfuck.

                                        I suppose Randal Flagg could be a woman in our reality.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 23 May 2020, 14:55 last edited by Mik
                                          #51

                                          Or in this case, Trashcan Man.

                                          Yes, the entire world is in on the plot to take down Donald J. Trump.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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