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The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.

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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
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    I think the media presentation is one-sided.
    Remember the videos showing people suffering, tubes sticking out, the look of fear if not horror, as the person was slowly suffocating to death?
    That's not really shown any longer, at least on ABC which is the only local/national mainstream news we watch. If there were more pictures of what the virus does, the death and dying side, the ugly and the scary side, there would be people rethinking the macho no-mask necessary mentality.

    I guess it's more fun to cover the argument, group the participants as either Left or Right, pro-Trump or anti-Trump, and turn it into a political game and endless clickbait.

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      I think the media presentation is one-sided.
      Remember the videos showing people suffering, tubes sticking out, the look of fear if not horror, as the person was slowly suffocating to death?
      That's not really shown any longer, at least on ABC which is the only local/national mainstream news we watch. If there were more pictures of what the virus does, the death and dying side, the ugly and the scary side, there would be people rethinking the macho no-mask necessary mentality.

      I guess it's more fun to cover the argument, group the participants as either Left or Right, pro-Trump or anti-Trump, and turn it into a political game and endless clickbait.

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      @Rainman said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

      I think the media presentation is one-sided.
      Remember the videos showing people suffering, tubes sticking out, the look of fear if not horror, as the person was slowly suffocating to death?
      That's not really shown any longer, at least on ABC which is the only local/national mainstream news we watch. If there were more pictures of what the virus does, the death and dying side, the ugly and the scary side, there would be people rethinking the macho no-mask necessary mentality.

      I guess it's more fun to cover the argument, group the participants as either Left or Right, pro-Trump or anti-Trump, and turn it into a political game and endless clickbait.

      Of course, it's how the game is played...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • ImprovisoI Improviso

        @LuFins-Dad said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

        @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

        @brenda said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

        I also think that in areas that have not been hit hard yet, people consider themselves not at any risk of infection.

        This would be me, Brenda. My county has a total of 5 cases (no deaths). 4 or those were over a month ago. Only 1 case in the last 30 days.

        If I lived in a different area with more problems, I might not be so cavalier about it. And certainly not making any judgements about people who do live in those areas.

        Only one case in 30 days? Woohoo! Another family and we are going in on a house rental in Port Haywood. We've got some other friends staying in Onemo at the same time. We wanted to be closer, but those rentals are getting snatched up by people in DC. Everybody wants to get out of here for a few weeks with everything going on.

        Hey, does that covered area at Hole in the Wall on Gwynne count as outdoor seating? It should. Maybe we should get together for a beer while we're down there? You can meet Finley once his rash has cleared up...

        Cool. Port Haywood is maybe 15 minutes from me and Hole in the Wall is about 10 minutes. It's actually 1 mile from me by water. Haven't been to HITW in a while. Nice outdoor seating overlooking Milford Haven. If it's open, I'd certainly like to meet up for a beer. When are you planning to be here?

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        @Improviso LOL, that was meant to be a warning that your little county is soon going to be overrun with DC residents wanting to get onto the water in your wonderful little area just like every year. But this year, they will be bringing guests...

        But what the hell, I was thinking of renting a place for few days...

        The Brad

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        • ImprovisoI Improviso

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

          And it's older people who are most at risk.

          It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

          Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

          MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #45

          @Improviso said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

          And it's older people who are most at risk.

          It would seem to be older people who live in nursing homes, at least in Virginia.

          Look... if I get it, I get it. But my personal risk assessment says to me that I'm probably NOT going to die from it.

          Does it say you will not spread it to anyone else who will in the contagious time between when you pick it up and become symptomatic? Or worse during the extended time you are asymptomatic but contagious? That’s not live and let live, but live and let die.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • RainmanR Offline
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            Rainman
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            #46

            I could make a song out of that. . .

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #47

              That’s San Antonio. Not east bumfuck.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #48

                Jesus....

                ....will see you soon.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  The stupid ...
                  ... it just might kill.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    That’s San Antonio. Not east bumfuck.

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    @jon-nyc said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                    That’s San Antonio. Not east bumfuck.

                    I suppose Randal Flagg could be a woman in our reality.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #51

                      Or in this case, Trashcan Man.

                      Yes, the entire world is in on the plot to take down Donald J. Trump.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        I wonder about her stability. Clearly, her genius is not in question.

                        I was only joking

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          I'm not defending her intelligence or their choice to hug... However, the video is clipped. We don't know that she was saying COVID-19 is a Democrat ploy. I think it far more likely that she was referring to the slow re-opening and the continued debate on how strict the current restrictions should be.

                          The Brad

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                          • L Loki

                            How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #54

                            @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                            How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

                            Big enough that governors are starting to try to address it.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
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                              Amen, Governor Burgum.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Based on that thinking everyone should always wear a mask everywhere, all the time, forever.

                                There is a limit, don't be afraid to discuss it.

                                Virtue is not the reason, it just won't sell, people will recognize it and reject it.

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
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                                  He lacked the political courage even to ask people to wear masks. His emotional plea was to not hate others for wearing masks. I wasn't even aware that that was a thing - hating people for wearing masks. I guess probably nazis would hate people for wearing masks, or maybe KKK members.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                                      L Offline
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                                      Loki
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                      Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                                      Very true.

                                      Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

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                                      • L Loki

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                        Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                                        Very true.

                                        Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

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                                        George K
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                                        @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                        Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                                        Very true.

                                        Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

                                        Mask not worn:

                                        1. In my car
                                        2. In my house
                                        3. On my thrice-weekly walk. When I encounter someone, we move about 10 feet apart.

                                        Mask worn:

                                        1. Post Office
                                        2. Grocery Store
                                        3. Any other store that I might encounter someone.

                                        Is it effective? Hell if I know. But, it wouldn't hurt, amirite?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • L Loki

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                          Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                                          Very true.

                                          Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

                                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                          Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                                          Very true.

                                          Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

                                          I also get it that some folks are going to have a harder time wearing them. And it's not like wearing a mask is less of a pain in the ass, for anybody. But the concept isn't political and I'm tired of the fuckery. They help prevent the spread.

                                          Please love yourself.

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