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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    That's just Maricopa County.

    There are two issues...

    1. If you threw out all the dupes, improper votes counted, etc., would DJT have a shot at winning the state. Don't take Pravda's word for it, glance over the numbers.
    2. Even if Biden would have won handily, this many fuck-ups brings the ballot integrity question to the forefront. Want elections not to contested or people to not think the system is rigged? Then make the system clear, transparent and uncheatable. If not, bad things happen in countries where the populance has no faith in the election process.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      That's just Maricopa County.

      There are two issues...

      1. If you threw out all the dupes, improper votes counted, etc., would DJT have a shot at winning the state. Don't take Pravda's word for it, glance over the numbers.
      2. Even if Biden would have won handily, this many fuck-ups brings the ballot integrity question to the forefront. Want elections not to contested or people to not think the system is rigged? Then make the system clear, transparent and uncheatable. If not, bad things happen in countries where the populance has no faith in the election process.
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #5

      @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

      That's just Maricopa County.

      There are two issues...

      1. If you threw out all the dupes, improper votes counted, etc., would DJT have a shot at winning the state. Don't take Pravda's word for it, glance over the numbers.

      That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

        That's just Maricopa County.

        There are two issues...

        1. If you threw out all the dupes, improper votes counted, etc., would DJT have a shot at winning the state. Don't take Pravda's word for it, glance over the numbers.

        That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

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        George K
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        @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

        That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

        No. Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes.

        You have 42,727 questionable votes.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

          That's just Maricopa County.

          There are two issues...

          1. If you threw out all the dupes, improper votes counted, etc., would DJT have a shot at winning the state. Don't take Pravda's word for it, glance over the numbers.

          That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

          @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

          That's just Maricopa County.

          There are two issues...

          1. If you threw out all the dupes, improper votes counted, etc., would DJT have a shot at winning the state. Don't take Pravda's word for it, glance over the numbers.

          That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

          Let's assume they were all made in Trump's favor. I'm more concerned that they had this many problems.

          And I wonder how many other states have similar problems?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • George KG George K

            @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

            That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

            No. Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes.

            You have 42,727 questionable votes.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            @george-k said in Losing loser loses again:

            @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

            That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

            No. Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes.

            You have 42,727 questionable votes.

            But if they're mistakes rather than fraud, you'd expect them to be roughly 50/50, and with a sample size of 42,727, it's very unlikely that the result would be changed.

            I agree with Jolly that the system could clearly be improved.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @george-k said in Losing loser loses again:

              @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

              That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

              No. Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes.

              You have 42,727 questionable votes.

              But if they're mistakes rather than fraud, you'd expect them to be roughly 50/50, and with a sample size of 42,727, it's very unlikely that the result would be changed.

              I agree with Jolly that the system could clearly be improved.

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              Copper
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              @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

              But if they're mistakes rather than fraud

              Biden voters make more mistakes

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @george-k said in Losing loser loses again:

                @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

                That appears to assume that all the mistakes were made in Biden's favour. I haven't seen anything to support that.

                No. Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes.

                You have 42,727 questionable votes.

                But if they're mistakes rather than fraud, you'd expect them to be roughly 50/50, and with a sample size of 42,727, it's very unlikely that the result would be changed.

                I agree with Jolly that the system could clearly be improved.

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                George K
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                @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

                But if they're mistakes rather than fraud, you'd expect them to be roughly 50/50

                True.

                Voters who vote in multiple counties and more ballots returned than existing voters are not mistakes.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • X xenon

                  It's rigged all the way down. Any "evidence" that shows it wasn't rigged is just evidence of how deep the swamp is.

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                  @xenon said in Losing loser loses again:

                  It's rigged all the way down. Any "evidence" that shows it wasn't rigged is just evidence of how deep the swamp is.

                  LOL, even if Trump won Arizona, it would go from a landslide loss to a rock fall loss. But looks like Trump lost Arizona by even more than he thought, so what's one level above landslide?

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @xenon said in Losing loser loses again:

                    It's rigged all the way down. Any "evidence" that shows it wasn't rigged is just evidence of how deep the swamp is.

                    LOL, even if Trump won Arizona, it would go from a landslide loss to a rock fall loss. But looks like Trump lost Arizona by even more than he thought, so what's one level above landslide?

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @89th said in Losing loser loses again:

                    But looks like Trump lost Arizona by even more than he thought, so what's one level above landslide?

                    That's such a massive loss it goes around the circle and becomes a cult-win, like those really awful movies some people enjoy.

                    Oh, sorry, did I say cult? Anyway, you know what I meant....

                    I was only joking

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      Just wait 'till next time!

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Just wait 'till next time!

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

                        Just wait 'till next time!

                        I don't think I'm ready to listen to four years of him going on about how unfair the 2-term limit is and/or how the Presidency really ought to be hereditary.

                        I was only joking

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          Better hurry up and get those citizenship papers, so you can vote!

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Better hurry up and get those citizenship papers, so you can vote!

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

                            Better hurry up and get those citizenship papers, so you can vote!

                            To keep Trump out in Massachusetts?

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

                              Better hurry up and get those citizenship papers, so you can vote!

                              To keep Trump out in Massachusetts?

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

                              @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

                              Better hurry up and get those citizenship papers, so you can vote!

                              To keep Trump out in Massachusetts?

                              I thought you might be voting for The Donald. Gotta love those lower taxes!

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                One more loss for Trump:
                                https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21071194-grant-v-trump-order-on-dismissal-motion

                                Trump used a copyrighted song in campaign ad and refused to pay the rights holder for said use. The rights holder sued. Trump’s legal team moved to dismiss the case, but the judge denied the motion to dismiss. The case will go to discovery.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Losing loser loses again:

                                  @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

                                  Better hurry up and get those citizenship papers, so you can vote!

                                  To keep Trump out in Massachusetts?

                                  I thought you might be voting for The Donald. Gotta love those lower taxes!

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  @jolly said in Losing loser loses again:

                                  Gotta love those lower taxes!

                                  Not really bothered, TBH. What I've seen since I got here was debt, debt, and more debt. It doesn't seem to make much difference who's in charge, they have no concept of living within their means. Not being an American citizen means that I can choose to walk away from the debt at an appropriate point in my life if I wish, and inherit a slightly lower one somewhere else.

                                  I was only joking

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