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    George K
    wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 23:26 last edited by
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    Put aside for a second the questions of whether the US should be sending aid to Israel, and how much.

    Apparently some members of "The Squad" want to eliminate part of the budget that allocate funds to Israel's "Iron Dome" which intercepts incoming missiles.

    This is 100% a defensive weapon.

    I don't understand the thinking of hindering our allies from defending themselves.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      22 Sept 2021, 23:26

      Put aside for a second the questions of whether the US should be sending aid to Israel, and how much.

      Apparently some members of "The Squad" want to eliminate part of the budget that allocate funds to Israel's "Iron Dome" which intercepts incoming missiles.

      This is 100% a defensive weapon.

      I don't understand the thinking of hindering our allies from defending themselves.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 23:33 last edited by
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      @george-k said in Defund the Iron Dome:

      I don't understand the thinking of hindering our allies from defending themselves.

      They're not our allies, though. They're warmongers. Take that money and give it to Palestine.

      That's prob'ly what they'd say.

      Please love yourself.

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        Mik
        wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 23:39 last edited by
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        Is advocating against our allies treason?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          22 Sept 2021, 23:33

          @george-k said in Defund the Iron Dome:

          I don't understand the thinking of hindering our allies from defending themselves.

          They're not our allies, though. They're warmongers. Take that money and give it to Palestine.

          That's prob'ly what they'd say.

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          George K
          wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 23:39 last edited by
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          @aqua-letifer said in Defund the Iron Dome:

          Palestine.

          Is that a country? Where's the embassy? Who's the president/prime minister? WHere's the capitol?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            22 Sept 2021, 23:39

            @aqua-letifer said in Defund the Iron Dome:

            Palestine.

            Is that a country? Where's the embassy? Who's the president/prime minister? WHere's the capitol?

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 00:00 last edited by
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            @george-k said in Defund the Iron Dome:

            @aqua-letifer said in Defund the Iron Dome:

            Palestine.

            Is that a country? Where's the embassy? Who's the president/prime minister? WHere's the capitol?

            They don't have those things because of Western prejudices. That's what they'd say, too.

            And while I don't think it's that clear-cut, I also don't think how it works in the international community is that you need an embassy or capital in order for your rights to be considered.

            My litmus test for how seriously to take a position on Israel/Palestine is how complicated and nuanced it is. The simpler, the dumber and more delusional.

            Please love yourself.

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            • G George K
              22 Sept 2021, 23:26

              Put aside for a second the questions of whether the US should be sending aid to Israel, and how much.

              Apparently some members of "The Squad" want to eliminate part of the budget that allocate funds to Israel's "Iron Dome" which intercepts incoming missiles.

              This is 100% a defensive weapon.

              I don't understand the thinking of hindering our allies from defending themselves.

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              Copper
              wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 01:23 last edited by
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              @george-k said in Defund the Iron Dome:

              I don't understand the thinking of hindering our allies from defending themselves.

              We elected people who hate us and our allies.

              Elections have consequences.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 14:40 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                This kind of thing is easy. We can always find an argument....

                Nothing to do with Israel, but for example, I look at some of my "less progressive" Facebook friends, and they often post these little pictures saying we shouldn't be sending money overseas in aid, but should be helping the poor in Britain instead, frequently accompanied by heart-rending photos of old men who fought in WW2 and have no legs and shit.

                Then they'll complain about the fact that to many benefits are paid to lazy, good-for-nothing poor people in the UK, with a heart-rending photo of some smug rich cunt, saying he pays too much in tax, and it's no wonder he lives abroad.

                Then they'll post complaining about well-known black person Lewis Hamilton not paying his fair share in taxes because he lives abroad and how he should be ashamed.

                Then they'll post a picture of Nigel Farage with that stupid fucking inbred chinless grin, and I'm forced to de-friend them.

                I was only joking

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                  bachophile
                  wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 16:40 last edited by bachophile
                  #8

                  Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                  Grammar police but with Englishman you can’t be too sure.

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                  • B bachophile
                    23 Sept 2021, 16:40

                    Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                    Grammar police but with Englishman you can’t be too sure.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 16:46 last edited by
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                    @bachophile said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                    Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                    D2 uses it as a non-binary term. Applies to all.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      23 Sept 2021, 16:46

                      @bachophile said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                      Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                      D2 uses it as a non-binary term. Applies to all.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 16:46 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                      @bachophile said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                      Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                      D2 uses it as a non-binary term. Applies to all.

                      Agree.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • B bachophile
                        23 Sept 2021, 16:40

                        Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                        Grammar police but with Englishman you can’t be too sure.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 16:56 last edited by
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                        @bachophile said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                        Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                        Grammar police but with Englishman you can’t be too sure.

                        It's primarily used as an insult for men in the UK.

                        I was only joking

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                        • G George K
                          23 Sept 2021, 16:46

                          @bachophile said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                          Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                          D2 uses it as a non-binary term. Applies to all.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 21:45 last edited by
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                          @george-k said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                          @bachophile said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                          Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                          D2 uses it as a non-binary term. Applies to all.

                          I wonder if I should use or, at least, remember that the next time someone I am speaking to identifies as and wants to be referred to as non-binary?

                          Elbows up!

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                          • R Renauda
                            23 Sept 2021, 21:45

                            @george-k said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                            @bachophile said in Defund the Iron Dome:

                            Isn’t cunt a feminine noun, not masculine?

                            D2 uses it as a non-binary term. Applies to all.

                            I wonder if I should use or, at least, remember that the next time someone I am speaking to identifies as and wants to be referred to as non-binary?

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                            George K
                            wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 21:47 last edited by
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                            @renauda hell, @Doctor-Phibes uses "twat" in a pretty non-discriminatory way, right?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              23 Sept 2021, 21:47

                              @renauda hell, @Doctor-Phibes uses "twat" in a pretty non-discriminatory way, right?

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 21:49 last edited by
                              #14

                              @george-k
                              Don't we all?

                              Elbows up!

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                              • R Renauda
                                23 Sept 2021, 21:49

                                @george-k
                                Don't we all?

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                                George K
                                wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 21:54 last edited by
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                                @renauda actually, no.

                                When I was working, I'm sure my use of that noun would have cause a "stern reprimand" from our chairman. Of course, he would have done it with a wink and a nod - he's a good guy, and a friend.

                                Having been educated by D'Oh @Doctor-Phibes , in the internet usage of the term, I'm more apt to use it.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 21:59 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  A wink and a nod, say no more.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 23 Sept 2021, 22:42 last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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