Whip it. Whip it good.
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wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 13:17 last edited by
- They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
- The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
- Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
- They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.
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wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 13:21 last edited by
Kicked? Cow, not horse.
To be honest, I don't care if they used whips or not. I've worked stock with whips. In certain circumstances, it's quite effective.
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Kicked? Cow, not horse.
To be honest, I don't care if they used whips or not. I've worked stock with whips. In certain circumstances, it's quite effective.
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- They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
- The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
- Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
- They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.
wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 13:57 last edited by@george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
- They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
- The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
- Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
- They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.
That was my assessment of the pictures too, and I am nowhere near as knowledgeable of horses. Nice to see the media mistreat this administration a bit.
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@george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
- They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
- The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
- Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
- They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.
That was my assessment of the pictures too, and I am nowhere near as knowledgeable of horses. Nice to see the media mistreat this administration a bit.
wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 14:25 last edited by@mik said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
Nice to see the media mistreat this administration a bit.
I don't read it that way. I read it as a condemnation of border security policies, which the administration is trying to reverse.
I'm a half-empty guy today.
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wrote on 21 Sept 2021, 19:11 last edited by
@george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
@jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
Kicked? Cow, not horse.
They say that's worse.
Don't know. I can say it will definitely get your attention.
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wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 00:19 last edited by LuFins Dad
So what? They’re going to use gasoline powered motorbikes now? There goes our Carbon Credits…It’s like they want the oceans to rise…
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wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 00:29 last edited by
@jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
No mo...
There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.
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@jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
No mo...
There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.
wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 00:38 last edited by@george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
@jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
No mo...
There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.
If you don't believe it, watch the NOPD clear the streets on Ash Wednesday...
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@jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
No mo...
There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.
wrote on 24 Sept 2021, 00:44 last edited by@george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
@jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:
No mo...
There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.
Correct, which is why it had to be stopped.
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Many in the media, including on National Public Radio, have already reported as fact that the Border patrol agents were “whipping” migrants in the now familiar pictures. However, critics and agents have objected that the media is using still pictures and not the video that shows agents using their long reins to control the horses who were jittery near the water’s edge with people around them. The photographer himself says that the still photos are misleading and that he did not see any agent whipping any migrant.
Nevertheless, the call for an investigation was the right move particularly after Democratic leaders and Vice President Kamala Harris objected to the images as reminiscent the abuse of slavery.
Biden however announced both findings as well as the intended punishment before the investigation reached any conclusions:
“To see people treated like they did, horses barely running over, people being strapped – it’s outrageous. I promise you, those people will pay. There will be an investigation underway now and there will be consequences. There will be consequences.”
Presidents long resisted pressure to get them to comment on pending cases or investigations to avoid charges of undue influence or bias in the results. This is one such case. It was wrong for Biden to say what he did in promising punishment for agents before any investigation is complete. It sends a message to investigators about the expected conclusions of their work. It also suggests that a finding of no whipping or wrongdoing would contradict the President and would not be supported by the White House. That could present serious career issues for investigators. It is unfair to the agents. It is unfair to the investigators and it undermines the integrity of the investigation.
You cannot promise agents a fair and unbiased investigation when the President has already declared that they strapped migrants and will be punished. That is why Biden’s comments were clearly inappropriate and he should publicly withdraw them in the interests of preserving a fair process for all involved in this controversy.
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wrote on 25 Sept 2021, 16:47 last edited by
The Resident probably doesn't remember making those comments.
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wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 15:01 last edited by
The Age of Progressive Misinformation
Despite the haze of misinformation, the fact-checkers didn’t descend en masse. No Twitter accounts were suspended. All the people who pride themselves on purportedly defending American democracy from falsehoods and propaganda spreading on social media (and there’s unquestionably a lot of it) stood aside or joined the pile-on.
Press outfits went out of their way to label falsehoods promulgated by President Trump as such. Indeed, they gave every indication that they relished doing it.
In contrast, the New York Times story about Biden castigating the agents didn’t suggest that he might be wrong. In fact, the original version of the article reinforced his smear by referring to “the images of agents on horseback chasing, and in some cases using the reins of their horses to strike at running migrants.” The paper had to run a correction.
It has long been the case on college campuses that woke narratives have the power to trample facts and fairness. This phenomenon has escaped the confines of academe and now plays out at the highest echelons of American political power. Neither hacks on Twitter nor the president of the United States cared what really happened at Del Rio, not when the lie was more seductive and useful.