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Whip it. Whip it good.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-says-images-border-patrol-whip-obviously-horrific-n1279663

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      1. They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
      2. The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
      3. Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
      4. They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Kicked? Cow, not horse.😊

        To be honest, I don't care if they used whips or not. I've worked stock with whips. In certain circumstances, it's quite effective.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Kicked? Cow, not horse.😊

          To be honest, I don't care if they used whips or not. I've worked stock with whips. In certain circumstances, it's quite effective.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

          Kicked? Cow, not horse.

          They say that's worse.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K
            1. They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
            2. The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
            3. Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
            4. They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.
            MikM Offline
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            Mik
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            @george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

            1. They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
            2. The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
            3. Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
            4. They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.

            That was my assessment of the pictures too, and I am nowhere near as knowledgeable of horses. Nice to see the media mistreat this administration a bit.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              @george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

              1. They're not whips, they're ropes, part of the tack used by people who ride Western style.
              2. The WH should find someone who knows something about horses
              3. Spinning a rope like that is a way to get a horse to move over.
              4. They were doing it to get the people to move away from the horse. Ever been kicked by a horse? Mrs. George has.

              That was my assessment of the pictures too, and I am nowhere near as knowledgeable of horses. Nice to see the media mistreat this administration a bit.

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              George K
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              @mik said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

              Nice to see the media mistreat this administration a bit.

              I don't read it that way. I read it as a condemnation of border security policies, which the administration is trying to reverse.

              I'm a half-empty guy today.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                Kicked? Cow, not horse.

                They say that's worse.

                JollyJ Offline
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                @george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                Kicked? Cow, not horse.

                They say that's worse.

                Don't know. I can say it will definitely get your attention.😬😬

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #8

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    @jolly the hypocrisy is astonishing.

                    These are the people who lambasted "Kids in Cages!" (even though they were built and used by 44). Now that they're in charge, the treatment is, well, somebody else's fault.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
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                      No mo...

                      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/joe-biden-bans-officials-from-using-horses-to-secure-the-border/

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #11

                        So what? They’re going to use gasoline powered motorbikes now? There goes our Carbon Credits…It’s like they want the oceans to rise…

                        The Brad

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          No mo...

                          https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/joe-biden-bans-officials-from-using-horses-to-secure-the-border/

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                          No mo...

                          https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/joe-biden-bans-officials-from-using-horses-to-secure-the-border/

                          There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                            No mo...

                            https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/joe-biden-bans-officials-from-using-horses-to-secure-the-border/

                            There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            @george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                            @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                            No mo...

                            https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/joe-biden-bans-officials-from-using-horses-to-secure-the-border/

                            There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.

                            If you don't believe it, watch the NOPD clear the streets on Ash Wednesday...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                              No mo...

                              https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/joe-biden-bans-officials-from-using-horses-to-secure-the-border/

                              There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.

                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @george-k said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                              @jolly said in Whip it. Whip it good.:

                              No mo...

                              https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/23/joe-biden-bans-officials-from-using-horses-to-secure-the-border/

                              There are few more effective methods of crowd control than equines.

                              Correct, which is why it had to be stopped.

                              The Brad

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                                Jolly
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                                Well, post this under "No shit".

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/photographer-who-snapped-border-agents-on-horseback-says-images-can-be-misconstrued/ar-AAOMPn8?ocid=msedgntp

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  George K
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                                  download-3-1.jpg.jpg

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    They will pay!

                                    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2021/09/24/biden-says-border-patrol-agents-will-pay-n2596444

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
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                                      https://jonathanturley.org/2021/09/25/those-people-will-pay-did-biden-just-prejudice-the-border-investigation/

                                      Many in the media, including on National Public Radio, have already reported as fact that the Border patrol agents were “whipping” migrants in the now familiar pictures. However, critics and agents have objected that the media is using still pictures and not the video that shows agents using their long reins to control the horses who were jittery near the water’s edge with people around them. The photographer himself says that the still photos are misleading and that he did not see any agent whipping any migrant.

                                      Nevertheless, the call for an investigation was the right move particularly after Democratic leaders and Vice President Kamala Harris objected to the images as reminiscent the abuse of slavery.

                                      Biden however announced both findings as well as the intended punishment before the investigation reached any conclusions:

                                      “To see people treated like they did, horses barely running over, people being strapped – it’s outrageous. I promise you, those people will pay. There will be an investigation underway now and there will be consequences. There will be consequences.”

                                      Presidents long resisted pressure to get them to comment on pending cases or investigations to avoid charges of undue influence or bias in the results. This is one such case. It was wrong for Biden to say what he did in promising punishment for agents before any investigation is complete. It sends a message to investigators about the expected conclusions of their work. It also suggests that a finding of no whipping or wrongdoing would contradict the President and would not be supported by the White House. That could present serious career issues for investigators. It is unfair to the agents. It is unfair to the investigators and it undermines the integrity of the investigation.

                                      You cannot promise agents a fair and unbiased investigation when the President has already declared that they strapped migrants and will be punished. That is why Biden’s comments were clearly inappropriate and he should publicly withdraw them in the interests of preserving a fair process for all involved in this controversy.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Jolly
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                                        The Resident probably doesn't remember making those comments.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          The Age of Progressive Misinformation

                                          Despite the haze of misinformation, the fact-checkers didn’t descend en masse. No Twitter accounts were suspended. All the people who pride themselves on purportedly defending American democracy from falsehoods and propaganda spreading on social media (and there’s unquestionably a lot of it) stood aside or joined the pile-on.

                                          Press outfits went out of their way to label falsehoods promulgated by President Trump as such. Indeed, they gave every indication that they relished doing it.

                                          In contrast, the New York Times story about Biden castigating the agents didn’t suggest that he might be wrong. In fact, the original version of the article reinforced his smear by referring to “the images of agents on horseback chasing, and in some cases using the reins of their horses to strike at running migrants.” The paper had to run a correction.

                                          It has long been the case on college campuses that woke narratives have the power to trample facts and fairness. This phenomenon has escaped the confines of academe and now plays out at the highest echelons of American political power. Neither hacks on Twitter nor the president of the United States cared what really happened at Del Rio, not when the lie was more seductive and useful.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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