Remember that choir practice super spreading event?
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wrote on 14 May 2020, 01:59 last edited by
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wrote on 14 May 2020, 02:03 last edited by
I have tried to tell peope bravado won't protect you from a virus. The answer I got back was 'Glad the men in WWII didn't feel that way'. This is from a nurse I've known all my life. You can't fix stupid.
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wrote on 14 May 2020, 02:21 last edited by Loki
Best to hope that masks work as well as other measures such as distancing at work and play and contact tracing. Otherwise it’s herd immunity, antivirals or vaccines. This virus is highly communicable and sitting it out doesnt seem to be a viable option as printing money has its limits.
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wrote on 14 May 2020, 02:26 last edited by
Don’t get me wrong. I’m for opening up as much as we responsibly and safely can. But that requires responsibilities on everyone’s part.
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Don’t get me wrong. I’m for opening up as much as we responsibly and safely can. But that requires responsibilities on everyone’s part.
wrote on 14 May 2020, 02:42 last edited byWhy did the men in WW2 think bravado would protect them from a virus?
I'm guessing it was because they were idiots. Or possibly it was the Germans who felt that way?
The Nazis weren't big on choirs, that I do know. Maybe in their incredibly evil way, they'd stumbled upon a great truth. God hates fucking choirboys. [Insert priest joke here]
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 11:43 last edited by
White House and CDC remove coronavirus warnings about choirs in faith guidance
The Trump administration with no advance notice removed warnings contained in guidance for the reopening of houses of worship that singing in choirs can spread the coronavirus.
Last Friday, the administration released pandemic guidance for faith communities after weeks of debate flared between the White House and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Those guidelines posted on the CDC website included recommendations that religious communities “consider suspending or at least decreasing use of choir/musical ensembles and congregant singing, chanting, or reciting during services or other programming, if appropriate within the faith tradition.”
It added: “The act of singing may contribute to transmission of Covid-19, possibly through emission of aerosols.”
By Saturday, that version was replaced by updated guidance that no longer includes any reference to choirs or congregant singing and the risk for spreading virus. The altered guidance also deleted a reference to “shared cups” among items, including hymnals and worship rugs, that should not be shared. The updated guidelines also added language that said the guidance “is not intended to infringe on rights protected by the First Amendment.”
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 13:37 last edited by
Works for me. Give people the information and let them decide. Some will have choirs, some won't.
Some people will be comfortable with mitigation efforts for their worship service, some won't. The individual churches will have different responses and the people attending them can decide whether to go or stay home.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 14:08 last edited by
What's the age distribution of church attendees in the US?
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Works for me. Give people the information and let them decide. Some will have choirs, some won't.
Some people will be comfortable with mitigation efforts for their worship service, some won't. The individual churches will have different responses and the people attending them can decide whether to go or stay home.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 14:34 last edited by@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
Works for me. Give people the information and let them decide. Some will have choirs, some won't.
You have the right to make your own decisions. You do not have the right to put me at risk.
That's the problem with "opening back up." I work in an open office floorplan. No walls, and everyone's very much closer than 6 feet. Oh and I work with a lot of boomers who think this virus thing is a big hoax because they don't know anyone who has it. We've already been told that management is chomping at the bit to get everyone back in the office, and there's not going to be an option to work remotely.
What kind of contribution to the economy can someone make in the ICU?
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@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
Works for me. Give people the information and let them decide. Some will have choirs, some won't.
You have the right to make your own decisions. You do not have the right to put me at risk.
That's the problem with "opening back up." I work in an open office floorplan. No walls, and everyone's very much closer than 6 feet. Oh and I work with a lot of boomers who think this virus thing is a big hoax because they don't know anyone who has it. We've already been told that management is chomping at the bit to get everyone back in the office, and there's not going to be an option to work remotely.
What kind of contribution to the economy can someone make in the ICU?
wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:22 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
You have the right to make your own decisions. You do not have the right to put me at risk.
I agree with this from Aqua.
I understand that for some people, the church is a tremendous part of their life, and that is okay. But you cannot have blind faith. Sometimes the needs of society outweigh the wants of an individual person.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 16:44 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
What's the age distribution of church attendees in the US?
I'm not sure. Walk in one and see for yourself. God is good and you probably won't need a hardhat.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 17:37 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
What's the age distribution of church attendees in the US?
It's hard to say. Even the ones who look young sound like my grandmother.
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Works for me. Give people the information and let them decide. Some will have choirs, some won't.
Some people will be comfortable with mitigation efforts for their worship service, some won't. The individual churches will have different responses and the people attending them can decide whether to go or stay home.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 18:00 last edited by@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
Give people the information and let them decide.
In this case, the White House and the CDC is deliberately not publishing the information concerning religious choir.
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@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
Give people the information and let them decide.
In this case, the White House and the CDC is deliberately not publishing the information concerning religious choir.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 19:07 last edited by@Axtremus said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
Give people the information and let them decide.
In this case, the White House and the CDC is deliberately not publishing the information concerning religious choir.
The information is out there and is pretty well known.
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wrote on 29 May 2020, 19:08 last edited by
And the WH still put the kibosh on it.
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@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
Give people the information and let them decide.
In this case, the White House and the CDC is deliberately not publishing the information concerning religious choir.
wrote on 29 May 2020, 19:14 last edited by@Axtremus said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
Give people the information and let them decide.
In this case, the White House and the CDC is deliberately not publishing the information concerning religious choir.
What is that should be published? Is it just this or is it for every public spread. I think I’m missing the point somewhere.
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wrote on 31 May 2020, 14:06 last edited by
The point is that some believe the interests of the state override the practice of religion.
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The point is that some believe the interests of the state override the practice of religion.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 14:57 last edited by@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
The point is that some believe the interests of the state override the practice of religion.
The point is religious pandering and the irresponsible practice of religion by the few are endangering the health of the general population.
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@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
The point is that some believe the interests of the state override the practice of religion.
The point is religious pandering and the irresponsible practice of religion by the few are endangering the health of the general population.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 15:08 last edited by@Axtremus said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
endangering the health of the general population.
How much are they endangering the health of the general population?
Exactly how much?
Give us some science.
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@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
The point is that some believe the interests of the state override the practice of religion.
The point is religious pandering and the irresponsible practice of religion by the few are endangering the health of the general population.
wrote on 31 May 2020, 16:16 last edited by@Axtremus said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
@Jolly said in Remember that choir practice super spreading event?:
The point is that some believe the interests of the state override the practice of religion.
The point is religious pandering and the irresponsible practice of religion by the few are endangering the health of the general population.
Let’s see you post this about the protests.