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What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #29

    Guys, on the political front it’s not really rocket science. There is a large number of people that simply distrust centralized government and authority. There is a large number of people that think the opposite and prefer a central authority and tight regulations. It makes perfect sense that there are those on the right that distrust the vaccine based on the Government’s involvement and push in the matter. Those people are also more likely to be very pro-Trump simply because he didn’t treat them like shit and call them deplorable. That doesn’t mean that he is in any way responsible for their reaction to the vaccine.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @jolly said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

      One county does not a country make.

      It's a good enough sample size. There's a trend. The more conservative, white, and Trump-supporting you are, the higher the chance you're unvaccinated.

      You can also play the same game with urban minorities, too, and get pretty much the same results. Or with granola-munchers. Both of which are liberal-minded, so hey, that's two whole points for your team's column. Winning.

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      @aqua-letifer said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

      @jolly said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

      One county does not a country make.

      It's a good enough sample size. There's a trend. The more conservative, white, and Trump-supporting you are, the higher the chance you're unvaccinated.

      You can also play the same game with urban minorities, too, and get pretty much the same results. Or with granola-munchers. Both of which are liberal-minded, so hey, that's two whole points for your team's column. Winning.

      ^^ This.

      And this is supported quite solidly by a number of statistics and studies. But so is the fact that Trump lost in a landslide (by his metric), so maybe math isn’t enough here to prove the point. Probably louder yelling is needed.

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      • 89th8 89th

        @aqua-letifer said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

        @jolly said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

        One county does not a country make.

        It's a good enough sample size. There's a trend. The more conservative, white, and Trump-supporting you are, the higher the chance you're unvaccinated.

        You can also play the same game with urban minorities, too, and get pretty much the same results. Or with granola-munchers. Both of which are liberal-minded, so hey, that's two whole points for your team's column. Winning.

        ^^ This.

        And this is supported quite solidly by a number of statistics and studies. But so is the fact that Trump lost in a landslide (by his metric), so maybe math isn’t enough here to prove the point. Probably louder yelling is needed.

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        @89th said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

        And this is supported quite solidly by a number of statistics and studies.

        Which number? Zero?

        Education is extremely important.

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            89th
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            #33

            Keep in mind if Trump had won Arizona or Georgia how those dots would be red too.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              #34

              I noticed you haven't bothered to address vaccine hesitancy at all among core Democrat constituencies.

              Last time I looked, more Trump supporters in Louisiana were vaccinated than Biden supporters.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                #35

                All adults: 69 percent
                Men: 67 percent
                Women: 71 percent
                18-34: 63 percent
                35-49: 58 percent
                50-64: 71 percent
                65+: 86 percent
                Whites: 66 percent
                Blacks: 76 percent
                Latinos: 71 percent
                Urban residents: 79 percent
                Suburban residents: 67 percent
                Rural residents: 52 percent
                White evangelicals: 59 percent
                Democrats: 88 percent
                Independents: 60 percent
                Republicans: 55 percent

                Republicans who support Trump more than party: 46 percent
                Republicans who support party more than Trump: 62 percent
                Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent
                Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent
                Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent
                Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent

                White non-college grads: 60 percent
                White college grads: 80 percent

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #36

                  I find that 91% stat very hard to believe.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #37

                    I don’t believe any of them

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by Jolly
                      #38

                      Furthermore, at about the 4:17 mark, the discussion is about how we are medically making some mistakes with our blanket use of vaccines and boosters.

                      As soon as that presenter finishes, might want to listen to the LSU doc about vaccine hesitancy...

                      Link to video

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #39

                        @xenon said:

                        What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          #40

                          Where's that Bell Curve thread? I think we have some candidates for the lower end of the spectrum...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Furthermore, at about the 4:17 mark, the discussion is about how we are medically making some mistakes with our blanket use of vaccines and boosters.

                            As soon as that presenter finishes, might want to listen to the LSU doc about vaccine hesitancy...

                            Link to video

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                            @jolly said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

                            Furthermore, at about the 4:17 mark

                            I can't understand what she is saying

                            I think my ears are missing that frequency

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                              George K
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

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                                #43

                                @george-k said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

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                                See. Tracks the Bell Curve exactly. 😁 😁 😁

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
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                                  #44

                                  How about a black asian?

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    How about a black asian?

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                                    Horace
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                                    #45

                                    @copper said in What’s the vaccine hesitancy driver?:

                                    How about a black asian?

                                    White woken are the ones who fetishize black men. Not too many Asian women with black men, funnily enough.

                                    Where’s that IQ bell curve again?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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