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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Antibody levels.

    We aren't utilizing the test like we should. I know antibody levels don't always equate to immunity levels, but they do give us some ballpark figures. I know several healthcare professionals who have had COVID, that check their antibody levels every thirty days. They're not going to vaccinate until those levels drop significantly.

    Instead of one-size-fits-all medicine, why don't we consider things like antibody levels and natural immunity?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Antibody levels.

      We aren't utilizing the test like we should. I know antibody levels don't always equate to immunity levels, but they do give us some ballpark figures. I know several healthcare professionals who have had COVID, that check their antibody levels every thirty days. They're not going to vaccinate until those levels drop significantly.

      Instead of one-size-fits-all medicine, why don't we consider things like antibody levels and natural immunity?

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      @jolly said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

      Antibody levels.

      We aren't utilizing the test like we should. I know antibody levels don't always equate to immunity levels, but they do give us some ballpark figures. I know several healthcare professionals who have had COVID, that check their antibody levels every thirty days. They're not going to vaccinate until those levels drop significantly.

      Instead of one-size-fits-all medicine, why don't we consider things like antibody levels and natural immunity?

      Do you see the general public checking their antibody levels every thirty days? How much would that cost and is that even feasible given the size of the US population and the testing capacity we have (or can reasonably scale up) today? Would be more or less antithetical to freedom/liberty to get one to two jabs a year for vaccination or to get 12 or more needle sticks a year to check antibody levels every 30 days?

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @jolly said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

        Antibody levels.

        We aren't utilizing the test like we should. I know antibody levels don't always equate to immunity levels, but they do give us some ballpark figures. I know several healthcare professionals who have had COVID, that check their antibody levels every thirty days. They're not going to vaccinate until those levels drop significantly.

        Instead of one-size-fits-all medicine, why don't we consider things like antibody levels and natural immunity?

        Do you see the general public checking their antibody levels every thirty days? How much would that cost and is that even feasible given the size of the US population and the testing capacity we have (or can reasonably scale up) today? Would be more or less antithetical to freedom/liberty to get one to two jabs a year for vaccination or to get 12 or more needle sticks a year to check antibody levels every 30 days?

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        @axtremus said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

        @jolly said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

        Antibody levels.

        We aren't utilizing the test like we should. I know antibody levels don't always equate to immunity levels, but they do give us some ballpark figures. I know several healthcare professionals who have had COVID, that check their antibody levels every thirty days. They're not going to vaccinate until those levels drop significantly.

        Instead of one-size-fits-all medicine, why don't we consider things like antibody levels and natural immunity?

        Do you see the general public checking their antibody levels every thirty days? How much would that cost and is that even feasible given the size of the US population and the testing capacity we have (or can reasonably scale up) today? Would be more or less antithetical to freedom/liberty to get one to two jabs a year for vaccination or to get 12 or more needle sticks a year to check antibody levels every 30 days?

        Wouldn't have to do it every 90 days. Do the studies and determine the appropriate times.

        Can we scale up? Helluva lot easier than the PCR test.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @jolly said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

          Antibody levels.

          We aren't utilizing the test like we should. I know antibody levels don't always equate to immunity levels, but they do give us some ballpark figures. I know several healthcare professionals who have had COVID, that check their antibody levels every thirty days. They're not going to vaccinate until those levels drop significantly.

          Instead of one-size-fits-all medicine, why don't we consider things like antibody levels and natural immunity?

          Do you see the general public checking their antibody levels every thirty days? How much would that cost and is that even feasible given the size of the US population and the testing capacity we have (or can reasonably scale up) today? Would be more or less antithetical to freedom/liberty to get one to two jabs a year for vaccination or to get 12 or more needle sticks a year to check antibody levels every 30 days?

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          @axtremus said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

          Do you see the general public checking their antibody levels every thirty days?

          Sure, Emmy celebs do it every 48 hours.

          Additionally, the department was told that all attendees tested negative for COVID-19 within 48 hours of the event. Similarly, production crews were required to be vaccinated or test negative for the virus twice per week.

          https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/emmys-2021-los-angeles-county-responds-criticism-lack-covid-19-protocols

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            Does anybody really have an issue with insurers no longer waiving the copays for COVID related treatment? I don’t.

            The Brad

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              Nahh. Had to happens sometime.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                Does anybody really have an issue with insurers no longer waiving the copays for COVID related treatment? I don’t.

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                @lufins-dad said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

                Does anybody really have an issue with insurers no longer waiving the copays for COVID related treatment? I don’t.

                You have to understand, The Holy Compost ran a story and acolyte Ax was smitten by the Word.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Does anybody really have an issue with insurers no longer waiving the copays for COVID related treatment? I don’t.

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                  @lufins-dad said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

                  Does anybody really have an issue with insurers no longer waiving the copays for COVID related treatment? I don’t.

                  Why did they wave them in the first place?

                  Was it a mistake or has the environment changed?

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    You can be in crisis mode for only so long. I don't think we are there anymore.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Are you lumping in vaccinated vs. unvaccinated?

                      You know what? I'm taking care of these type patients. You don't. I work with a lot of healthcare professionals that aren't vaxxed. If it doesn't bother them, it doesn't bother me.

                      1. We had to change the definition of vaccine, to cover COVID vaccines. They really aren't, not in the traditional sense in that they prevent disease.

                      2. Why should you be afraid of the unvaxxed? You've taken the vaccine. You're safe. Or are you? Or do you just live in perpetual fear? Life is too short for irrational fear.

                      3. In the case of a vaccination that isn't a vaccination, if people choose to not take the vaccine or if they have had the disease and have natural immunity, I feel they should have the freedom to make their own decisions. I'm not ready for your brand of facism.

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                      @jolly said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

                      In the case of a vaccination that isn't a vaccination, if people choose to not take the vaccine or if they have had the disease and have natural immunity, I feel they should have the freedom to make their own decisions.

                      So why did you get vaccinated since you had already acquired natural immunity and you don't consider the vaccine is really a vaccine?

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @jolly said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

                        In the case of a vaccination that isn't a vaccination, if people choose to not take the vaccine or if they have had the disease and have natural immunity, I feel they should have the freedom to make their own decisions.

                        So why did you get vaccinated since you had already acquired natural immunity and you don't consider the vaccine is really a vaccine?

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                        @renauda said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

                        @jolly said in Insurers stopped waiving COVID-19 co-pays and deductibles:

                        In the case of a vaccination that isn't a vaccination, if people choose to not take the vaccine or if they have had the disease and have natural immunity, I feel they should have the freedom to make their own decisions.

                        So why did you get vaccinated since you had already acquired natural immunity and you don't consider the vaccine is really a vaccine?

                        Because I run the antibody levels, Mortimer, so I knew pretty much where I stood. I wanted to jack them a little higher, because while many of you wonder if you are exposed, I'm routinely exposed to COVID.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Renauda
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                          #24

                          Okay Beauregard, I get it and think it wise and responsible on
                          your part. BTW, I assume Mortimer is someone other than the Snerd dummy?

                          Elbows up!

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