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Door or window?

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    In the center of our living room we have a large stone fireplace. On both sides of the fireplace are sliding patio doors out to the back deck and yard. The doors are from the 80's and are not well insulated, so we are replacing them this fall. Karla wants us to only use one door for going out back, which presents an interesting possibility... We're considering taking one set of doors and just replacing it with a huge window. Thoughts?

    The Brad

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      It would be easier to advise if we had a pic. i have several ideas.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Here’s an old one. We’ve pulled the older faux stone and put in a little better brownish grey faux stone and have hidden the outlets and light switches. We’re also putting in recessed lighting and putting in a directional ceiling light to highlight the fireplace.

        The right door goes down to a walkway and the raised flowerbed. I ripped out the wooden wall last year and built a decorative and stronger stone retention wall. The old wood wall was untreated and starting to rot… I also dug out the center and we are finishing putting in pavers this month. That’s going to be our main sitting/dining area as I have an outdoor cooking area over on the left with a Weber Kettle and a Weber Smoky Mountain. Also have a small stone fire pit…

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        The Brad

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          Loki
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          French doors on both sides could be incredibly good looking.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Without windows, one cannot defenestrate things. We all differ in how much value we place on defenestrating stuff, but it's something to keep in mind.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Away
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              Me 'n Loki agree. French doors will look great. I think one window and one door would look imbalanced. Sliders are pretty outdated these days and an exterior door will swing out. The transom will probably not work without serious outdoor work, but the mullions are personal taste. I'd probably skip them.

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              • George KG Offline
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                What they said....doors (and corners).

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Me 'n Loki agree. French doors will look great. I think one window and one door would look imbalanced. Sliders are pretty outdated these days and an exterior door will swing out. The transom will probably not work without serious outdoor work, but the mullions are personal taste. I'd probably skip them.

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                    @mik said in Door or window?:

                    Me 'n Loki agree. French doors will look great. I think one window and one door would look imbalanced. Sliders are pretty outdated these days and an exterior door will swing out. The transom will probably not work without serious outdoor work, but the mullions are personal taste. I'd probably skip them.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Without windows, one cannot defenestrate things. We all differ in how much value we place on defenestrating stuff, but it's something to keep in mind.

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                      @horace said in Door or window?:

                      Without windows, one cannot defenestrate things. We all differ in how much value we place on defenestrating stuff, but it's something to keep in mind.

                      Without doors, you can’t deport things. Perhaps LD wants to keep his options open.

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                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        @Mik @Loki French Doors were on my short list, but the contractor was talking about a lot of heat energy loss unless we invest a heckuva lot more money into it…

                        The Brad

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                          @Mik @Loki French Doors were on my short list, but the contractor was talking about a lot of heat energy loss unless we invest a heckuva lot more money into it…

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                          @lufins-dad said in Door or window?:

                          @Mik @Loki French Doors were on my short list, but the contractor was talking about a lot of heat energy loss unless we invest a heckuva lot more money into it…

                          I would try and really nail down what the cost of that is? $25 a month, 50, more, less??

                          How important is the room? Is it a major space or just another recreation room? If its central to the house and where the eye goes every time it might be worth the heat loss cost.

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                            If you do put a window on one side can you split the room in half in terms of how the room is used-for example a game table/sitting area where the window is. That would address any symmetry issue.

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                            • MikM Away
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                              You could have fake french doors on one side. That way the symmetry is kept.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                https://www.uswindow-door.com/blog/french-doors-vs-sliding-glass-doors-the-pros-and-cons-of-each

                                "♦ Save on Your Energy Bill

                                Both types of doors can be opened up to allow a fresh breeze into the space. Using natural airflow can help reduce heating or cooling bills.

                                However, according to the U.S. Department of Energy, French exterior doors have a tighter seal when compared to sliding doors. This tighter seal means French doors are more energy efficient when the temperatures are too warm or cold outside.

                                Thus, while they may cost more initially, swinging doors could ultimately save you money."

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  French doors on both sides could be incredibly good looking.

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                                  @loki said in Door or window?:

                                  French doors on both sides could be incredibly good looking.

                                  Or French doors on one side and solid wall on the other. Use the back wall for outside shelves, cooking, etc.

                                  Either way, French doors

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                                    Your new lighting is going to be the real game changer, btw. Agreed about keeping both sets of doors.

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                                      xenon
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                                      I echo the sentiment on doors, but as someone who recently looked into replacing an exterior french door - they can be very pricey.

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                                        Keep both doors as doors.

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                                          Friday
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                                          I like symmetry. Doors on both sides.

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