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    George K
    wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 00:28 last edited by
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    Obama's economic advisor, Stephen Rattner:

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 00:42 last edited by
      #75

      Ratner’s right, but of course I’d say that because he’s making my point.

      But @George-K 15 months is a bit of a cherry pick since gas prices plummeted in Q220 due to covid

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        George K
        wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 00:55 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

        Ratner’s right, but of course I’d say that because he’s making my point.

        But @George-K 15 months is a bit of a cherry pick since gas prices plummeted in Q220 due to covid

        Yes, and the rise in printed dollars antedates the Biden administration as well to some extent. I'm sure that didn't help.

        But to address your point as to "cherry-picking" the 5 year timeline is somewhat different (and we can ignore that "Putin spike" for the sake of discussion).

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        The Trump peak is in May 2025 at about $3.00/gallon.

        The pre-Putin peak under the Biden administration is about $3.35, 10% higher. Inflation for the year is now 7.5%.

        As you know, gas prices are only one factor, and a major one, in the cost of living.

        I saw another chart today (correlation is not causation, of course) showing the rise of money available compared with inflation.

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 12:55 last edited by LuFins Dad 3 Nov 2022, 12:57
          #77

          The average gas price before COVID was at $2.54, Jon.

          Of course, it was over $3.20 over most of Obama's last 4 years...

          The Brad

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            11 Mar 2022, 12:55

            The average gas price before COVID was at $2.54, Jon.

            Of course, it was over $3.20 over most of Obama's last 4 years...

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            George K
            wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:00 last edited by
            #78

            @LuFins-Dad said in Inflation:

            Of course, it was over $3.20 over most of Obama's last 4 years...

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              89th
              wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:08 last edited by
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                89th
                wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:09 last edited by
                #80

                No doubt we will be setting all-time high records soon, but let's not forget the price has been between $3 and $4 bucks per gallon nearly half of the last 15 years.

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                  11 Mar 2022, 13:09

                  No doubt we will be setting all-time high records soon, but let's not forget the price has been between $3 and $4 bucks per gallon nearly half of the last 15 years.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 13:56 last edited by
                  #81

                  @89th said in Inflation:

                  No doubt we will be setting all-time high records soon, but let's not forget the price has been between $3 and $4 bucks per gallon nearly half of the last 15 years.

                  My guess is that has the potential to put the 70s oil crisis to shame.

                  But hey yeah, Biden, let's encourage everyone to return to the office!

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    11 Mar 2022, 13:56

                    @89th said in Inflation:

                    No doubt we will be setting all-time high records soon, but let's not forget the price has been between $3 and $4 bucks per gallon nearly half of the last 15 years.

                    My guess is that has the potential to put the 70s oil crisis to shame.

                    But hey yeah, Biden, let's encourage everyone to return to the office!

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 14:04 last edited by
                    #82

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Inflation:

                    @89th said in Inflation:

                    No doubt we will be setting all-time high records soon, but let's not forget the price has been between $3 and $4 bucks per gallon nearly half of the last 15 years.

                    My guess is that has the potential to put the 70s oil crisis to shame.

                    But hey yeah, Biden, let's encourage everyone to return to the office!

                    That’s a great idea! Hadn’t even considered that.

                    The Brad

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                      11 Mar 2022, 13:08

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 11 Mar 2022, 15:02 last edited by
                      #83

                      @89th said in Inflation:

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                      Don't go by all formulations. Most vehicles run on regular.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        7 Mar 2022, 12:48

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                        George K
                        wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 11:41 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in Inflation:

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Larry
                          wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 11:49 last edited by
                          #85

                          Don't blame me. I voted for Trump..

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                          • LarryL Larry
                            20 Mar 2022, 11:49

                            Don't blame me. I voted for Trump..

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 11:53 last edited by jon-nyc
                            #86

                            @Larry said in Inflation:

                            Don't blame me. I voted for Trump..

                            His Fed pick quadrupled the money supply. Don’t blame me, I voted for Hilary.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            LarryL 1 Reply Last reply 20 Mar 2022, 11:59
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 11:57 last edited by
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                              Remind me again...on whose watch has record inflation occurred?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                20 Mar 2022, 11:53

                                @Larry said in Inflation:

                                Don't blame me. I voted for Trump..

                                His Fed pick quadrupled the money supply. Don’t blame me, I voted for Hilary.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 11:59 last edited by
                                #88

                                @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                @Larry said in Inflation:

                                Don't blame me. I voted for Trump..

                                His Fed pick quadrupled the money supply. Don’t blame me, I voted for Hilary.

                                You voted for hillary?????

                                BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

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                                • G George K
                                  11 Mar 2022, 00:55

                                  @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                  Ratner’s right, but of course I’d say that because he’s making my point.

                                  But @George-K 15 months is a bit of a cherry pick since gas prices plummeted in Q220 due to covid

                                  Yes, and the rise in printed dollars antedates the Biden administration as well to some extent. I'm sure that didn't help.

                                  But to address your point as to "cherry-picking" the 5 year timeline is somewhat different (and we can ignore that "Putin spike" for the sake of discussion).

                                  Screen Shot 2022-03-10 at 6.46.43 PM.png

                                  The Trump peak is in May 2025 at about $3.00/gallon.

                                  The pre-Putin peak under the Biden administration is about $3.35, 10% higher. Inflation for the year is now 7.5%.

                                  As you know, gas prices are only one factor, and a major one, in the cost of living.

                                  I saw another chart today (correlation is not causation, of course) showing the rise of money available compared with inflation.

                                  Screen Shot 2022-03-10 at 6.53.18 PM.png

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 12:00 last edited by
                                  #89

                                  @George-K said in Inflation:

                                  Yes, and the rise in printed dollars antedates the Biden administration as well to some extent. I'm sure that didn't help.

                                  To some extent? Almost entirely. The vast majority of dollars that have ever existed were ‘printed’ during the Trump administration.

                                  ETA: of the ~21T dollars in existence, ~15T were printed on Trump’s watch.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                  LarryL 1 Reply Last reply 20 Mar 2022, 12:03
                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    20 Mar 2022, 12:00

                                    @George-K said in Inflation:

                                    Yes, and the rise in printed dollars antedates the Biden administration as well to some extent. I'm sure that didn't help.

                                    To some extent? Almost entirely. The vast majority of dollars that have ever existed were ‘printed’ during the Trump administration.

                                    ETA: of the ~21T dollars in existence, ~15T were printed on Trump’s watch.

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 12:03 last edited by Larry
                                    #90

                                    @jon-nyc said in Inflation:

                                    @George-K said in Inflation:

                                    Yes, and the rise in printed dollars antedates the Biden administration as well to some extent. I'm sure that didn't help.

                                    To some extent? Almost entirely. The vast majority of dollars that have ever existed were ‘printed’ during the Trump administration.

                                    ETA: of the ~21T dollars in existence, ~15T were printed on Trump’s watch.

                                    Oh bull shit. You actually want us to believe that the massive debt the democrats ran up wasn't connected ?

                                    There was a pandemic. The threat of a complete economic collapse was real. Money was thrown at it. Now - who was it that created most of the wild eyed bulls shit that drove that? Fucking democrats. Then who was it that wanted to keep on handing out money like candy even after it was determined the handouts were being wasted and weren't helping?? Fucking democrats. Yet you want to drop that all on Trump as if he was the bad guy. I refuse to believe you're that stupid.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 12:30 last edited by
                                      #91

                                      I’m not really “dropping it all on Trump” rather I’m exposing the facile partisan explanations in this thread.

                                      I talked more broadly about the causes of inflation in another thread about a week ago.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        20 Mar 2022, 12:30

                                        I’m not really “dropping it all on Trump” rather I’m exposing the facile partisan explanations in this thread.

                                        I talked more broadly about the causes of inflation in another thread about a week ago.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 12:50 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc interesting that the number of circulating dollars rose at a pretty slow pace until the pandemic really hit in spring of 2020. After that spike, however, the pace exceeds the historical rate of rise.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          20 Mar 2022, 12:50

                                          @jon-nyc interesting that the number of circulating dollars rose at a pretty slow pace until the pandemic really hit in spring of 2020. After that spike, however, the pace exceeds the historical rate of rise.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 20 Mar 2022, 13:00 last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #93

                                          @George-K

                                          Yeah, though maybe it’s slowing a bit in the past months? We’ll see how the fed moves on interest rates affect it

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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