We Will Never Forget.
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And I'm afraid many in the country echo the sentiments of this man:
"Tomorrow it will be 20 years since the terrorist attack on America, and what have we learned? In my opinion, almost nothing. We hear daily from our "leaders" that Trump voters and conservatives in general are a greater threat to this country than islamic fanatics.
We're turning Afghan refugees loose in this country basically unvetted, and giving them lifetime welfare. We're letting millions of people across our southern border with little to no idea of who or what they are, and those are only the ones who turn themselves in.
While we're making the vaccine "optional" for these people, our government is mandating American citizens get vaccinated of lose their employment.
Tomorrow, when we're thinking of all those innocent American lives taken by fundamentalist adherents to islam, let's consider what's changed in our government's attitude and actions since then.
After the attacks we were all pushed through emotional proclamations into not questioning the "Patriot Act" that's been transformed from looking for islamic terrorists into looking for people speaking out against the democrat/rino party. Our every keystrokes are monitored, along with our texts and even telephone conversations by the NSA in the name of "national security". The TSA was invented to stop another 9-11, and it's morphed into groping grandmothers in wheelchairs. They combined oversight of the intelligence community into the Homeland Security Department, whose latest warning, not very subtly, was about white Trump voters.
Through poorly thought out and vague legislation, plus Executive Orders, we've become a closely monitored population and lost all sight of the real threats that still exist, while growing every day. We've become so blinded by internal politics we've stopped looking outwards. As a nation we've become more afraid of organizations like "Right The Vote" than al Qaeda.
As our State Department makes nice with an avowed enemy, and our President bold face lies to us, our national short memory has forgotten the real threat to our Republic - islamic terrorism, a war against Christianity that's gone on for over a thousand years.
I vividly remember driving my wife and I to work the morning of 9/11/01, and hearing of the first plane hitting the Twin Towers. I remember my thoughts when the second plane hit and it was obvious who was behind those attacks. When I went next door where the owner had a TV on it all became clear.
It put me in mind of the Sweetwater Texas rattlesnake roundup. Every year they'd have people scouring the desert around Sweetwater hunting rattlesnakes, bringing them back to the arena where they'd be counted and weighed. There were always thousands of snake brought in. The environment around Sweetwater was perfect for those snakes, and remember, I said they hold that event every year. They never run out of snakes.
I took that as an allegory to the mid-east, where the environment for 1400 years has been perfect for the spread of jihad, and we'll never run out of fundamentalist muslims.
Is there an answer other than hunting "terrorists" in the voting rolls of this country? Of course, but in the current government and media climate there doesn't seem to be. Apparently our government's focus is their own elitist self-preservation, not ours."
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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And I'm afraid many in the country echo the sentiments of this man:
"Tomorrow it will be 20 years since the terrorist attack on America, and what have we learned? In my opinion, almost nothing. We hear daily from our "leaders" that Trump voters and conservatives in general are a greater threat to this country than islamic fanatics.
We're turning Afghan refugees loose in this country basically unvetted, and giving them lifetime welfare. We're letting millions of people across our southern border with little to no idea of who or what they are, and those are only the ones who turn themselves in.
While we're making the vaccine "optional" for these people, our government is mandating American citizens get vaccinated of lose their employment.
Tomorrow, when we're thinking of all those innocent American lives taken by fundamentalist adherents to islam, let's consider what's changed in our government's attitude and actions since then.
After the attacks we were all pushed through emotional proclamations into not questioning the "Patriot Act" that's been transformed from looking for islamic terrorists into looking for people speaking out against the democrat/rino party. Our every keystrokes are monitored, along with our texts and even telephone conversations by the NSA in the name of "national security". The TSA was invented to stop another 9-11, and it's morphed into groping grandmothers in wheelchairs. They combined oversight of the intelligence community into the Homeland Security Department, whose latest warning, not very subtly, was about white Trump voters.
Through poorly thought out and vague legislation, plus Executive Orders, we've become a closely monitored population and lost all sight of the real threats that still exist, while growing every day. We've become so blinded by internal politics we've stopped looking outwards. As a nation we've become more afraid of organizations like "Right The Vote" than al Qaeda.
As our State Department makes nice with an avowed enemy, and our President bold face lies to us, our national short memory has forgotten the real threat to our Republic - islamic terrorism, a war against Christianity that's gone on for over a thousand years.
I vividly remember driving my wife and I to work the morning of 9/11/01, and hearing of the first plane hitting the Twin Towers. I remember my thoughts when the second plane hit and it was obvious who was behind those attacks. When I went next door where the owner had a TV on it all became clear.
It put me in mind of the Sweetwater Texas rattlesnake roundup. Every year they'd have people scouring the desert around Sweetwater hunting rattlesnakes, bringing them back to the arena where they'd be counted and weighed. There were always thousands of snake brought in. The environment around Sweetwater was perfect for those snakes, and remember, I said they hold that event every year. They never run out of snakes.
I took that as an allegory to the mid-east, where the environment for 1400 years has been perfect for the spread of jihad, and we'll never run out of fundamentalist muslims.
Is there an answer other than hunting "terrorists" in the voting rolls of this country? Of course, but in the current government and media climate there doesn't seem to be. Apparently our government's focus is their own elitist self-preservation, not ours."
@jolly said in We Will Never Forget.:
Is there an answer other than hunting "terrorists" in the voting rolls of this country? Of course, but in the current government and media climate there doesn't seem to be. Apparently our government's focus is their own elitist self-preservation, not ours."
When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
The current government had nothing to do with the time preceding and institutions set in place after 9/11.
It is laughably untrue that we have learned "almost nothing" from the attacks. Go here for an analysis from Brookings of the security failures that enabled 9/11 -- all under the Republicans -- and a timeline of the security that was set in place afterwards, also under the Republicans. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/08/27/9-11-and-the-reinvention-of-the-u-s-intelligence-community/
Since that awful, awful day, thousands of security-related strategies and activities have been put in place, virtually all under the radar. Like the careful and thorough examinations of shipping entering US ports every day. I cannot enumerate the number of workers -- and their families -- who deal every day, all over the country, with safeguards stemming from 9/11. It is inarguably more than this writer would have you believe.
If the Congressman who advocated hardening of airplane cockputs had won his fight, we would never know how many tragedies would have been averted. We will never know how many terrorist acts did not happen because of surveillance that has taken place since that day.
The greater lesson to be gained is that 9/11 with its indescribable and as-yet almost unbelievable terrible cost, must by all standards of decency and common sense transcend politicization. But nothing keeps writers of this concretized mental outlook from politicizing even this.
For shame.
Let's spend the day, rather than ferreting out delusory reasons to pile more recrimination on the heads of our enemies, reflecting upon those whom we lost, and on gratitude toward the police, fire and rescue personnel, human and dog, whom we can never adequately repay for their heroism.
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Joel Meyerowitz talking about the photos he took afterward. (If you saw any photograph of the immediate cleanup, it was one of his.)
An important thing to remember; we almost had no photos of that time. The only reason we do is because he broke the law.
Link to videoPlease love yourself.
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No.
Jesus said to let the dead bury the dead. And while remembrance is nice, it does not change the facts of what we have morphed into or what we are becoming. The lessons of any great tragedy are not to repeat the mistakes of the past, but to also let the retrospection of time guide the future.
I think the gentleman who wrote the words I posted earlier has a very timely point...The enemies of the United States are not primarily domestic, but foreign. Even as the scared mice of Congress erect fences and call in troops for a scanty rumor, the real threat is not the American people.
And for all the praise-worthy efforts of people in airports or on shipping docks, it amounts to naught when any fool with a mission can stroll across our southern border at will. While we have spent millions of dollars to get a guilty plea of trespass against a guy wearing buffalo horns and taking selfies, six guys crossing our border could take down a large part of our power grid or interrupt gas supplies to half the country with few weapons and just rudimentary intelligence.
The American people are not the enemy. Maybe that's the real lesson from that day in September.
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No.
Jesus said to let the dead bury the dead. And while remembrance is nice, it does not change the facts of what we have morphed into or what we are becoming. The lessons of any great tragedy are not to repeat the mistakes of the past, but to also let the retrospection of time guide the future.
I think the gentleman who wrote the words I posted earlier has a very timely point...The enemies of the United States are not primarily domestic, but foreign. Even as the scared mice of Congress erect fences and call in troops for a scanty rumor, the real threat is not the American people.
And for all the praise-worthy efforts of people in airports or on shipping docks, it amounts to naught when any fool with a mission can stroll across our southern border at will. While we have spent millions of dollars to get a guilty plea of trespass against a guy wearing buffalo horns and taking selfies, six guys crossing our border could take down a large part of our power grid or interrupt gas supplies to half the country with few weapons and just rudimentary intelligence.
The American people are not the enemy. Maybe that's the real lesson from that day in September.
@jolly said in We Will Never Forget.:
No.
Jesus said to let the dead bury the dead. And while remembrance is nice, it does not change the facts of what we have morphed into or what we are becoming. The lessons of any great tragedy are not to repeat the mistakes of the past, but to also let the retrospection of time guide the future.
I think the gentleman who wrote the words I posted earlier has a very timely point...The enemies of the United States are not primarily domestic, but foreign. Even as the scared mice of Congress erect fences and call in troops for a scanty rumor, the real threat is not the American people.
And for all the praise-worthy efforts of people in airports or on shipping docks, it amounts to naught when any fool with a mission can stroll across our southern border at will. While we have spent millions of dollars to get a guilty plea of trespass against a guy wearing buffalo horns and taking selfies, six guys crossing our border could take down a large part of our power grid or interrupt gas supplies to half the country with few weapons and just rudimentary intelligence.
The American people are not the enemy. Maybe that's the real lesson from that day in September.
Jolly, they don’t even need to cross the border. A decent computer and an internet connection will bring down half the country.
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@jolly said in We Will Never Forget.:
No.
Jesus said to let the dead bury the dead. And while remembrance is nice, it does not change the facts of what we have morphed into or what we are becoming. The lessons of any great tragedy are not to repeat the mistakes of the past, but to also let the retrospection of time guide the future.
I think the gentleman who wrote the words I posted earlier has a very timely point...The enemies of the United States are not primarily domestic, but foreign. Even as the scared mice of Congress erect fences and call in troops for a scanty rumor, the real threat is not the American people.
And for all the praise-worthy efforts of people in airports or on shipping docks, it amounts to naught when any fool with a mission can stroll across our southern border at will. While we have spent millions of dollars to get a guilty plea of trespass against a guy wearing buffalo horns and taking selfies, six guys crossing our border could take down a large part of our power grid or interrupt gas supplies to half the country with few weapons and just rudimentary intelligence.
The American people are not the enemy. Maybe that's the real lesson from that day in September.
Jolly, they don’t even need to cross the border. A decent computer and an internet connection will bring down half the country.
@lufins-dad said in We Will Never Forget.:
@jolly said in We Will Never Forget.:
No.
Jesus said to let the dead bury the dead. And while remembrance is nice, it does not change the facts of what we have morphed into or what we are becoming. The lessons of any great tragedy are not to repeat the mistakes of the past, but to also let the retrospection of time guide the future.
I think the gentleman who wrote the words I posted earlier has a very timely point...The enemies of the United States are not primarily domestic, but foreign. Even as the scared mice of Congress erect fences and call in troops for a scanty rumor, the real threat is not the American people.
And for all the praise-worthy efforts of people in airports or on shipping docks, it amounts to naught when any fool with a mission can stroll across our southern border at will. While we have spent millions of dollars to get a guilty plea of trespass against a guy wearing buffalo horns and taking selfies, six guys crossing our border could take down a large part of our power grid or interrupt gas supplies to half the country with few weapons and just rudimentary intelligence.
The American people are not the enemy. Maybe that's the real lesson from that day in September.
Jolly, they don’t even need to cross the border. A decent computer and an internet connection will bring down half the country.
Which is why we must monitor Tucker Carlson's emails!
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Joel Meyerowitz talking about the photos he took afterward. (If you saw any photograph of the immediate cleanup, it was one of his.)
An important thing to remember; we almost had no photos of that time. The only reason we do is because he broke the law.
Link to video@aqua-letifer said in We Will Never Forget.:
Joel Meyerowitz talking about the photos he took afterward. (If you saw any photograph of the immediate cleanup, it was one of his.)
An important thing to remember; we almost had no photos of that time. The only reason we do is because he broke the law.
Link to videoThanks for sharing!
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Tonight on Bongino's show, he will be interviewing the only survivor of the E ring at the Pentagon. That man is Brian Birdwell...
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The Brits:
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@aqua-letifer said in We Will Never Forget.:
Joel Meyerowitz talking about the photos he took afterward. (If you saw any photograph of the immediate cleanup, it was one of his.)
An important thing to remember; we almost had no photos of that time. The only reason we do is because he broke the law.
Link to videoThanks for sharing!
@89th said in We Will Never Forget.:
@aqua-letifer said in We Will Never Forget.:
Joel Meyerowitz talking about the photos he took afterward. (If you saw any photograph of the immediate cleanup, it was one of his.)
An important thing to remember; we almost had no photos of that time. The only reason we do is because he broke the law.
Link to videoThanks for sharing!
No prob! He's got some interesting stuff on the 'gram, too:
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@jon-nyc posted a very moving story on Facebook. I hope he will share it here.
@lufins-dad said in We Will Never Forget.:
@jon-nyc posted a very moving story on Facebook. I hope he will share it here.
Four of us from my firm - Christine McNulty, John Moran, Bill Cline, and myself- were registered at the Risk Waters Electronic Trading conference at Windows of the World that morning, the restaurant and event space on the top floor of the north tower. I had a last minute conference call scheduled at 11am with a prospective client. I considered doing the call from the Trade Center but I knew cell phone service was spotty up there, and I wasn’t sure how private the pay phones would be. So I decided to stay home until after the call. Bill was similarly saved by a schedule conflict. Christine and John, who had flown in from London for the event, arrived on time. They perished that day, as did every attendee who had arrived by 8:46.
We often hear the stories of people who worked in the trade center every day but were saved by some dentist appointment or a kid’s first day of kindergarten. When I hear these stories I think of Christine and John, who had the very opposite experience. They should have been thousands of miles away, but fate intervened the other way. Christine was young - in her early 30s I think. John had a wife and two small kids. May they rest in peace.
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@lufins-dad said in We Will Never Forget.:
@jon-nyc posted a very moving story on Facebook. I hope he will share it here.
Four of us from my firm - Christine McNulty, John Moran, Bill Cline, and myself- were registered at the Risk Waters Electronic Trading conference at Windows of the World that morning, the restaurant and event space on the top floor of the north tower. I had a last minute conference call scheduled at 11am with a prospective client. I considered doing the call from the Trade Center but I knew cell phone service was spotty up there, and I wasn’t sure how private the pay phones would be. So I decided to stay home until after the call. Bill was similarly saved by a schedule conflict. Christine and John, who had flown in from London for the event, arrived on time. They perished that day, as did every attendee who had arrived by 8:46.
We often hear the stories of people who worked in the trade center every day but were saved by some dentist appointment or a kid’s first day of kindergarten. When I hear these stories I think of Christine and John, who had the very opposite experience. They should have been thousands of miles away, but fate intervened the other way. Christine was young - in her early 30s I think. John had a wife and two small kids. May they rest in peace.
