Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status
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wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 16:23 last edited by
Loki sees everything through one lens.
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wrote on 3 Sept 2021, 12:06 last edited by Catseye3 9 Mar 2021, 12:21
On another front, on the practical usefulness of 90% of football peeps' utterances to the press. The Packers GM addressing the QB Aaron Rodgers-front office kerfuffle from earlier in the year.
"I’ve had really good conversations throughout camp with Aaron and Matt, and I think the communication has been really, really good,” Gutekunst said. One sentence later, "And the conversations that I’ve had with Aaron have been excellent.”
Yep, really good convo. Really, um, good.
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wrote on 4 Sept 2021, 23:57 last edited by
This may have had more to do with Belichick's decision.
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This may have had more to do with Belichick's decision.
wrote on 5 Sept 2021, 00:05 last edited by@mik said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
This may have had more to do with Belichick's decision.
It really is bizarre that Cam Newton was league MVP one year.
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wrote on 5 Sept 2021, 00:17 last edited by
And Drew Brees never was.
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This may have had more to do with Belichick's decision.
wrote on 5 Sept 2021, 00:18 last edited by Catseye3 9 Jul 2021, 08:12@mik Yeah, it's been pointed out in more than one place how you can't keep a veteran on the bench in favor of a rookie.
Julian Edelman said it was a cold decision, but that if you knew Belichick it's not surprising. We know all about that, don't we? But what was Belichick supposed to do? If Jones was the better bet, on what basis could BB be justified in putting Newton in the field when he couldn't read the playbook as well as Jones?
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wrote on 5 Sept 2021, 00:49 last edited by
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
And Drew Brees never was.
That's not all Drew wasn't.
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@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
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See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
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wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 13:13 last edited by Catseye3 9 Jul 2021, 13:26
Here's a prediction analysis for Thursday's game, Bucs-Cowboys: https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2021/9/6/22658885/cowboys-at-buccaneers-week-1-primer-dak-prescott-tom-brady-mike-mccarthy-bruce-arians-zack-martin
(Although, from another site: "Most people only love reading predictions so that they can throw them back in your face down the road after you end up being wrong about something . . . ")
Excerpts:
"For Dallas, it’s very simple: the season will go as Dak [Prescott] goes. His ankle looks great, and so does his shoulder despite a mostly-manufactured worry mill during the preseason. On Thursday night in Tampa Bay, Prescott will see his first game action since his gruesome injury against the Giants last year."
So he's going up against Brady with a recovering throwing shoulder. After being out forever. Hmm. I'm thinking he's got to be like the ant in the song about the ant and the rubber tree; he's gotta have miles and miles of hope.
After a lot more interesting content, "In other words, it’s a good thing that Dak’s ankle looks to be doing so well, because he may very well have to do a lot of running on Thursday. Between those potential problems on the offensive line and the thought of Tom Brady facing such a young and inexperienced defense, it’s easy to see why the Buccaneers are favored to win. But the Cowboys have the ingredients to win too, setting up a potentially thrilling start to the season."
Lots more good stuff at the site, with me mostly reading along dumbly and nodding like a bobblehead.
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@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
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See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 13:28 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
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Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
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@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
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Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 13:44 last edited by@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
More background...
See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
Cognitive issues? We should probably report that to VAERS.
Go back and read the link I posted and read Belichek’s words. He was pissed this thing was turned into a vaccination issue and pointedly talked about the disruptions caused by the vaccinated individuals that have tested positive. If Cam was lighting it up do you honestly believe he would have been let go?
10-15% of the Patriots are unvaccinated and still made the team.
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Here's a prediction analysis for Thursday's game, Bucs-Cowboys: https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2021/9/6/22658885/cowboys-at-buccaneers-week-1-primer-dak-prescott-tom-brady-mike-mccarthy-bruce-arians-zack-martin
(Although, from another site: "Most people only love reading predictions so that they can throw them back in your face down the road after you end up being wrong about something . . . ")
Excerpts:
"For Dallas, it’s very simple: the season will go as Dak [Prescott] goes. His ankle looks great, and so does his shoulder despite a mostly-manufactured worry mill during the preseason. On Thursday night in Tampa Bay, Prescott will see his first game action since his gruesome injury against the Giants last year."
So he's going up against Brady with a recovering throwing shoulder. After being out forever. Hmm. I'm thinking he's got to be like the ant in the song about the ant and the rubber tree; he's gotta have miles and miles of hope.
After a lot more interesting content, "In other words, it’s a good thing that Dak’s ankle looks to be doing so well, because he may very well have to do a lot of running on Thursday. Between those potential problems on the offensive line and the thought of Tom Brady facing such a young and inexperienced defense, it’s easy to see why the Buccaneers are favored to win. But the Cowboys have the ingredients to win too, setting up a potentially thrilling start to the season."
Lots more good stuff at the site, with me mostly reading along dumbly and nodding like a bobblehead.
wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 13:47 last edited by@catseye3 said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
Here's a prediction analysis for Thursday's game, Bucs-Cowboys: https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2021/9/6/22658885/cowboys-at-buccaneers-week-1-primer-dak-prescott-tom-brady-mike-mccarthy-bruce-arians-zack-martin
(Although, from another site: "Most people only love reading predictions so that they can throw them back in your face down the road after you end up being wrong about something . . . ")
Excerpts:
"For Dallas, it’s very simple: the season will go as Dak [Prescott] goes. His ankle looks great, and so does his shoulder despite a mostly-manufactured worry mill during the preseason. On Thursday night in Tampa Bay, Prescott will see his first game action since his gruesome injury against the Giants last year."
So he's going up against Brady with a recovering throwing shoulder. After being out forever. Hmm. I'm thinking he's got to be like the ant in the song about the ant and the rubber tree; he's gotta have miles and miles of hope.
After a lot more interesting content, "In other words, it’s a good thing that Dak’s ankle looks to be doing so well, because he may very well have to do a lot of running on Thursday. Between those potential problems on the offensive line and the thought of Tom Brady facing such a young and inexperienced defense, it’s easy to see why the Buccaneers are favored to win. But the Cowboys have the ingredients to win too, setting up a potentially thrilling start to the season."
Lots more good stuff at the site, with me mostly reading along dumbly and nodding like a bobblehead.
Well, in your defense it would be hard to read that guy's stuff as anything but bobblehead material. He's babbling to create content. First he praises Prescott, then says he has no chance, then says he might win. Utter nonsense.
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@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
More background...
See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
Cognitive issues? We should probably report that to VAERS.
Go back and read the link I posted and read Belichek’s words. He was pissed this thing was turned into a vaccination issue and pointedly talked about the disruptions caused by the vaccinated individuals that have tested positive. If Cam was lighting it up do you honestly believe he would have been let go?
10-15% of the Patriots are unvaccinated and still made the team.
wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 14:06 last edited by Loki 9 Jul 2021, 14:07@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
More background...
See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
Cognitive issues? We should probably report that to VAERS.
Go back and read the link I posted and read Belichek’s words. He was pissed this thing was turned into a vaccination issue and pointedly talked about the disruptions caused by the vaccinated individuals that have tested positive. If Cam was lighting it up do you honestly believe he would have been let go?
10-15% of the Patriots are unvaccinated and still made the team.
Ok ability to be at preseasonpractices and assurance could play in games was not a precipitating factor. You can’t make this up.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 14:11 last edited by
Thought experiment. Name other times in football history where a award winning QB lost his job like this? Also isn’t shape up or ship out a thing in sports? It’s so funny to see people say nah vaccine had nothing to do with it. The elephant in the room.
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@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
More background...
See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
Cognitive issues? We should probably report that to VAERS.
Go back and read the link I posted and read Belichek’s words. He was pissed this thing was turned into a vaccination issue and pointedly talked about the disruptions caused by the vaccinated individuals that have tested positive. If Cam was lighting it up do you honestly believe he would have been let go?
10-15% of the Patriots are unvaccinated and still made the team.
Ok ability to be at preseasonpractices and assurance could play in games was not a precipitating factor. You can’t make this up.
wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 14:27 last edited by@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
More background...
See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
Cognitive issues? We should probably report that to VAERS.
Go back and read the link I posted and read Belichek’s words. He was pissed this thing was turned into a vaccination issue and pointedly talked about the disruptions caused by the vaccinated individuals that have tested positive. If Cam was lighting it up do you honestly believe he would have been let go?
10-15% of the Patriots are unvaccinated and still made the team.
Ok ability to be at preseasonpractices and assurance could play in games was not a precipitating factor. You can’t make this up.
There is at least one other player on the team that missed time for protocols and is still there…Why can’t you take Belichek at his word?
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wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 14:33 last edited by
Just win, baby.
That covers it.
The vax stuff is press hoo-doo.
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@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
More background...
See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
Cognitive issues? We should probably report that to VAERS.
Go back and read the link I posted and read Belichek’s words. He was pissed this thing was turned into a vaccination issue and pointedly talked about the disruptions caused by the vaccinated individuals that have tested positive. If Cam was lighting it up do you honestly believe he would have been let go?
10-15% of the Patriots are unvaccinated and still made the team.
Ok ability to be at preseasonpractices and assurance could play in games was not a precipitating factor. You can’t make this up.
There is at least one other player on the team that missed time for protocols and is still there…Why can’t you take Belichek at his word?
wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 14:34 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@loki said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@lufins-dad said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
@jolly said in Cam Newton released from Patriots due to Vax status:
More background...
See? The Unvaccinated are idiots...
Not getting your point. From the article
Fewer than two weeks ago, however, Newton was the starter — according to coach Bill Belichick. Jones took charge after Newton missed five days due to a COVID “misunderstanding.” Maybe Jones would have supplanted Newton sooner or later. Newton’s absence surely helped it happen sooner.
Cognitive issues? We should probably report that to VAERS.
Go back and read the link I posted and read Belichek’s words. He was pissed this thing was turned into a vaccination issue and pointedly talked about the disruptions caused by the vaccinated individuals that have tested positive. If Cam was lighting it up do you honestly believe he would have been let go?
10-15% of the Patriots are unvaccinated and still made the team.
Ok ability to be at preseasonpractices and assurance could play in games was not a precipitating factor. You can’t make this up.
There is at least one other player on the team that missed time for protocols and is still there…Why can’t you take Belichek at his word?
I am taking the sum total of what I have heard in football over the decades and applied that to Cam’s case. It’s the most plausible but of course it could be different this time, there is a first for everything. So maybe.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 14:49 last edited by
Last time anybody trusted a white male from New England, they were chained in the cargo hold of a ship for a month's journey and then sold as a slave.
NEVER again. EVER.
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wrote on 7 Sept 2021, 18:37 last edited by
To clarify my thoughts on Cam I am only arguing over the timing. His vax status likely accelerated what was inevitable but a great game 1 by Cam would have complicated that.
Why accelerated you ask? A mere release without any other variable would invite a raft of media I don’t think Belichick would have imposed on himself.
