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It's the American Way

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  • J Jolly
    25 Aug 2021, 11:32

    That's the American way of life for a huge subset of Americans. A subset that seems like it is growing everyday.

    The figures may be off, but people game the system everyday. Back when I used to work around a lot if those folks, if I had a Medicaid or SSI question, I'd ask the patients. They knew the rules better than some of the staff that were trying to help them.

    Why work, when you don't have to?

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 13:23 last edited by
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    @jolly said in It's the American Way:

    Why work, when you don't have to?

    I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

    Please love yourself.

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      25 Aug 2021, 13:23

      @jolly said in It's the American Way:

      Why work, when you don't have to?

      I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 13:26 last edited by
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      @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

      @jolly said in It's the American Way:

      Why work, when you don't have to?

      I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

      Only the good ones.

      The Brad

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 13:29 last edited by
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        I've mentioned this before, but this is the classic justification for being a selfish, greedy asshat. Usually it's the Legend of the Millionaire Panhandler but the idea's always the same: don't help anyone, keep your money and live inside your gated communities because there's that one article out there about someone mooching the system and oh how dare they.

        Please love yourself.

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          25 Aug 2021, 13:23

          @jolly said in It's the American Way:

          Why work, when you don't have to?

          I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 13:49 last edited by
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          @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

          @jolly said in It's the American Way:

          Why work, when you don't have to?

          I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

          I'm reminded of Schrodinger's immigrant. Not only do they come over here taking away our jobs, but they also spend their lives sponging off benefits.

          I was only joking

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          • D Doctor Phibes
            25 Aug 2021, 13:49

            @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

            @jolly said in It's the American Way:

            Why work, when you don't have to?

            I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

            I'm reminded of Schrodinger's immigrant. Not only do they come over here taking away our jobs, but they also spend their lives sponging off benefits.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 13:51 last edited by
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            @doctor-phibes said in It's the American Way:

            Not only do they come over here taking away our jobs, but they also spend their lives sponging off benefits.

            LOL. Tell you what, anybody smart enough to pull that off is somebody we want!

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              25 Aug 2021, 13:29

              I've mentioned this before, but this is the classic justification for being a selfish, greedy asshat. Usually it's the Legend of the Millionaire Panhandler but the idea's always the same: don't help anyone, keep your money and live inside your gated communities because there's that one article out there about someone mooching the system and oh how dare they.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:25 last edited by
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              @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

              I've mentioned this before, but this is the classic justification for being a selfish, greedy asshat. Usually it's the Legend of the Millionaire Panhandler but the idea's always the same: don't help anyone, keep your money and live inside your gated communities because there's that one article out there about someone mooching the system and oh how dare they.

              So be it.

              New OB day was Tuesday. We usually had 20 or so come by for their workup. Since the building was a one-stop shop, they could get their labs, see the doc, drop by the MAP (Medicaid Approval Program) offices and stop at the WIC (Women, Infants & Children) Voucher office before they left.

              It was a standing joke among the staff that while daddy would often accompany the baby-mama, they were never married and he always had a different address.

              You tell me...What's free labs, free doctor visit, free hospital delivery and around $40/month WIC (on top of your foodstamps) worth?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                Whatever system is in place, some people will game it.

                This is just as true of rich people as it is of poor people, they just game a different system.

                Failing to provide protection because some people will take advantage of it isn't a very good justification, and demonizing everybody who is on welfare as a sponger is as predictable as it is wrong.

                I was only joking

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:34 last edited by
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                  Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    25 Aug 2021, 16:29

                    Whatever system is in place, some people will game it.

                    This is just as true of rich people as it is of poor people, they just game a different system.

                    Failing to provide protection because some people will take advantage of it isn't a very good justification, and demonizing everybody who is on welfare as a sponger is as predictable as it is wrong.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:37 last edited by
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                    @doctor-phibes said in It's the American Way:

                    Failing to provide protection because some people will take advantage of it isn't a very good justification, and demonizing everybody who is on welfare as a sponger is as predictable as it is wrong.

                    👆

                    Personally, I strongly follow the "everybody gets what they deserve" mantra. That way I'm off the hook for giving a shit about anyone!

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • J Jolly
                      25 Aug 2021, 16:34

                      Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:39 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                      @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                      Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                      If you pay my share of the military machine that you love so much, that's fine with me. I'll probably do pretty well out of the deal.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        25 Aug 2021, 16:39

                        @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                        Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                        If you pay my share of the military machine that you love so much, that's fine with me. I'll probably do pretty well out of the deal.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 18:14 last edited by
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                        @doctor-phibes said in It's the American Way:

                        @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                        Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                        If you pay my share of the military machine that you love so much, that's fine with me. I'll probably do pretty well out of the deal.

                        Nah, but the draft would love to have one of your children....

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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