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It's the American Way

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    That's the American way of life for a huge subset of Americans. A subset that seems like it is growing everyday.

    The figures may be off, but people game the system everyday. Back when I used to work around a lot if those folks, if I had a Medicaid or SSI question, I'd ask the patients. They knew the rules better than some of the staff that were trying to help them.

    Why work, when you don't have to?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      That's the American way of life for a huge subset of Americans. A subset that seems like it is growing everyday.

      The figures may be off, but people game the system everyday. Back when I used to work around a lot if those folks, if I had a Medicaid or SSI question, I'd ask the patients. They knew the rules better than some of the staff that were trying to help them.

      Why work, when you don't have to?

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      @jolly said in It's the American Way:

      Why work, when you don't have to?

      Great argument for a steep wealth tax and high tax rates for the high income — then they will have to keep working or see their wealth erode bigly. Right, right?

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @jolly said in It's the American Way:

        Why work, when you don't have to?

        Great argument for a steep wealth tax and high tax rates for the high income — then they will have to keep working or see their wealth erode bigly. Right, right?

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        @axtremus said in It's the American Way:

        @jolly said in It's the American Way:

        Why work, when you don't have to?

        Great argument for a steep wealth tax and high tax rates for the high income — then they will have to keep working or see their wealth erode bigly. Right, right?

        Yes, you would see it that way.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @jolly said in It's the American Way:

          Why work, when you don't have to?

          Great argument for a steep wealth tax and high tax rates for the high income — then they will have to keep working or see their wealth erode bigly. Right, right?

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          @axtremus said in It's the American Way:

          Right, right?

          Yeah, no.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @axtremus said in It's the American Way:

            @jolly said in It's the American Way:

            Why work, when you don't have to?

            Great argument for a steep wealth tax and high tax rates for the high income — then they will have to keep working or see their wealth erode bigly. Right, right?

            Yes, you would see it that way.

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            @jolly said in It's the American Way:

            @axtremus said in It's the American Way:

            @jolly said in It's the American Way:

            Why work, when you don't have to?

            Great argument for a steep wealth tax and high tax rates for the high income — then they will have to keep working or see their wealth erode bigly. Right, right?

            Yes, you would see it that way.

            It’s only logical. Comprehensively tax all inherited wealth so there would be no “trust fund kids” who can afford to “not work.” Or are you trying to argue that it’s also the American Way that if you have rich parents then it’s OK for you to not work? Now I help you see the light too. You’re welcome.

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              Jolly
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              Larry swears you drool.

              He may be right.😀😀

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                That's the American way of life for a huge subset of Americans. A subset that seems like it is growing everyday.

                The figures may be off, but people game the system everyday. Back when I used to work around a lot if those folks, if I had a Medicaid or SSI question, I'd ask the patients. They knew the rules better than some of the staff that were trying to help them.

                Why work, when you don't have to?

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                @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                Why work, when you don't have to?

                I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                  Why work, when you don't have to?

                  I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

                  @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                  Why work, when you don't have to?

                  I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

                  Only the good ones.

                  The Brad

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                    I've mentioned this before, but this is the classic justification for being a selfish, greedy asshat. Usually it's the Legend of the Millionaire Panhandler but the idea's always the same: don't help anyone, keep your money and live inside your gated communities because there's that one article out there about someone mooching the system and oh how dare they.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                      Why work, when you don't have to?

                      I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

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                      @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

                      @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                      Why work, when you don't have to?

                      I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

                      I'm reminded of Schrodinger's immigrant. Not only do they come over here taking away our jobs, but they also spend their lives sponging off benefits.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

                        @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                        Why work, when you don't have to?

                        I thought Americans were hard-working, independently-minded patriots?

                        I'm reminded of Schrodinger's immigrant. Not only do they come over here taking away our jobs, but they also spend their lives sponging off benefits.

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                        @doctor-phibes said in It's the American Way:

                        Not only do they come over here taking away our jobs, but they also spend their lives sponging off benefits.

                        LOL. Tell you what, anybody smart enough to pull that off is somebody we want!

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          I've mentioned this before, but this is the classic justification for being a selfish, greedy asshat. Usually it's the Legend of the Millionaire Panhandler but the idea's always the same: don't help anyone, keep your money and live inside your gated communities because there's that one article out there about someone mooching the system and oh how dare they.

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                          @aqua-letifer said in It's the American Way:

                          I've mentioned this before, but this is the classic justification for being a selfish, greedy asshat. Usually it's the Legend of the Millionaire Panhandler but the idea's always the same: don't help anyone, keep your money and live inside your gated communities because there's that one article out there about someone mooching the system and oh how dare they.

                          So be it.

                          New OB day was Tuesday. We usually had 20 or so come by for their workup. Since the building was a one-stop shop, they could get their labs, see the doc, drop by the MAP (Medicaid Approval Program) offices and stop at the WIC (Women, Infants & Children) Voucher office before they left.

                          It was a standing joke among the staff that while daddy would often accompany the baby-mama, they were never married and he always had a different address.

                          You tell me...What's free labs, free doctor visit, free hospital delivery and around $40/month WIC (on top of your foodstamps) worth?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Whatever system is in place, some people will game it.

                            This is just as true of rich people as it is of poor people, they just game a different system.

                            Failing to provide protection because some people will take advantage of it isn't a very good justification, and demonizing everybody who is on welfare as a sponger is as predictable as it is wrong.

                            I was only joking

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                              Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                Whatever system is in place, some people will game it.

                                This is just as true of rich people as it is of poor people, they just game a different system.

                                Failing to provide protection because some people will take advantage of it isn't a very good justification, and demonizing everybody who is on welfare as a sponger is as predictable as it is wrong.

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                                @doctor-phibes said in It's the American Way:

                                Failing to provide protection because some people will take advantage of it isn't a very good justification, and demonizing everybody who is on welfare as a sponger is as predictable as it is wrong.

                                👆

                                Personally, I strongly follow the "everybody gets what they deserve" mantra. That way I'm off the hook for giving a shit about anyone!

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

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                                  @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                                  Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                                  If you pay my share of the military machine that you love so much, that's fine with me. I'll probably do pretty well out of the deal.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                                    Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                                    If you pay my share of the military machine that you love so much, that's fine with me. I'll probably do pretty well out of the deal.

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in It's the American Way:

                                    @jolly said in It's the American Way:

                                    Good. Then double your taxes and you pay for it.

                                    If you pay my share of the military machine that you love so much, that's fine with me. I'll probably do pretty well out of the deal.

                                    Nah, but the draft would love to have one of your children....

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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