We are alone
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@doctor-phibes said in We are alone:
We can't even explain how bees fly, and we've decided that we know everything about how life in the universe evolves?
No, but we can extrapolate based on the high amount of energy the bee needs to generate to be able to fly in that manner that it’s evolutionary paths forward are fairly limited.
@lufins-dad said in We are alone:
@doctor-phibes said in We are alone:
We can't even explain how bees fly, and we've decided that we know everything about how life in the universe evolves?
No, but we can extrapolate based on the high amount of energy the bee needs to generate to be able to fly in that manner that it’s evolutionary paths forward are fairly limited.
We can extrapolate all we like, but we've seen one planet with life on it. There are potentially billions out there. The theory of evolution is what, 220 years old - and we suddenly know freaking everything? We've still got political leaders who say 'it's only a theory' - and now, we understand everything?
Hubris.
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@lufins-dad said in We are alone:
@doctor-phibes said in We are alone:
We can't even explain how bees fly, and we've decided that we know everything about how life in the universe evolves?
No, but we can extrapolate based on the high amount of energy the bee needs to generate to be able to fly in that manner that it’s evolutionary paths forward are fairly limited.
We can extrapolate all we like, but we've seen one planet with life on it. There are potentially billions out there. The theory of evolution is what, 220 years old - and we suddenly know freaking everything? We've still got political leaders who say 'it's only a theory' - and now, we understand everything?
Hubris.
@doctor-phibes said in We are alone:
@lufins-dad said in We are alone:
@doctor-phibes said in We are alone:
We can't even explain how bees fly, and we've decided that we know everything about how life in the universe evolves?
No, but we can extrapolate based on the high amount of energy the bee needs to generate to be able to fly in that manner that it’s evolutionary paths forward are fairly limited.
We can extrapolate all we like, but we've seen one planet with life on it. There are potentially billions out there. The theory of evolution is what, 220 years old - and we suddenly know freaking everything? We've still got political leaders who say 'it's only a theory' - and now, we understand everything?
Hubris.
Hell the article Mik just shared about COVID cited a study in which an e coli population learned how to ingest citrate instead of glucose.
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Considering the vastness and age of the universe, it strikes me as hubris for this little bunch of monkeys that have only had telescopes for 500 years to decide that they're it.
We've only been able to talk for about 0.0003% of the age of the universe, and we've decided it's too big to explore?
@doctor-phibes said in We are alone:
Considering the vastness and age of the universe, it strikes me as hubris for this little bunch of monkeys that have only had telescopes for 500 years to decide that they're it.
We've only been able to talk for about 0.0003% of the age of the universe, and we've decided it's too big to explore?
Word.
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We are absolutely alone in the universe. Or at least, effectively alone. Even if some life-supporting planet was out there, I’d imagine the life biology, evolution, and communication style would all be so different, it wouldn’t matter. For example, let’s say a planet 75 million light years away has a healthy population of frogs. Ok great, I doubt the frogs would be able to send a message to Earth. Let alone to a fellow frog 100 feet away. Also, IF (and this is a big IF) the frogs has the ability to view Earth from 75 million light years away…. they would see dinosaurs, not people.
@89th said in We are alone:
We are absolutely alone in the universe. Or at least, effectively alone. Even if some life-supporting planet was out there, I’d imagine the life biology, evolution, and communication style would all be so different, it wouldn’t matter. For example, let’s say a planet 75 million light years away has a healthy population of frogs. Ok great, I doubt the frogs would be able to send a message to Earth. Let alone to a fellow frog 100 feet away. Also, IF (and this is a big IF) the frogs has the ability to view Earth from 75 million light years away…. they would see dinosaurs, not people.
Frogs? I wasn't expecting this turn in the conversation, but it's a nice addition
. My froggos approve. It took much discussion on their part.
