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So, how soon before Kabul falls?

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    The apparent lack of planning looks really bad. It's turning into a rout.

    I was only joking

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        Presumably, the US military 'planned' this - or did Biden bring in special folks?

        I was only joking

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        • 89th8 89th

          @doctor-phibes said in So, how soon before Kabul falls?:

          I don't know if there's a viable solution, but this doesn't look like one.

          In retrospect, the only viable option would have been a surge of military support to ensure an orderly evacuation, especially for the translators and others who were promised visas and never got them now. Which is a travesty.

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          @89th said in So, how soon before Kabul falls?:

          In retrospect . . .

          The magic words, eh?

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            @89th said in So, how soon before Kabul falls?:

            Biden’s July 8th comments will haunt him on this issue forever. He said things like “zero percent chance we will chopper away people from the embassy like saigon” and “the taliban will not take control of the country”.

            I suspect "zero percent chance" will be the new "read my lips" for the next couple of decades.

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              Let's hope so.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                The apparent lack of planning looks really bad. It's turning into a rout.

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                @doctor-phibes said in So, how soon before Kabul falls?:

                The apparent lack of planning looks really bad. It's turning into a rout.

                If you were Afghan military would you put up a fight when even Biden was saying 6 months before the fall? I mean what are your and your families odds of surviving if you pick giving up now vs later?

                Somewhere there could be a silver lining for a quick end. I mean for 6 month delay how many more refugees would we have taken? And would it have slowed refugee flow to Iran in a material way? And what additional would it have cost us to try and hold our assets and the Afghani towns?

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                • L Loki

                  @doctor-phibes said in So, how soon before Kabul falls?:

                  The apparent lack of planning looks really bad. It's turning into a rout.

                  If you were Afghan military would you put up a fight when even Biden was saying 6 months before the fall? I mean what are your and your families odds of surviving if you pick giving up now vs later?

                  Somewhere there could be a silver lining for a quick end. I mean for 6 month delay how many more refugees would we have taken? And would it have slowed refugee flow to Iran in a material way? And what additional would it have cost us to try and hold our assets and the Afghani towns?

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                  @loki said in So, how soon before Kabul falls?:

                  I mean for 6 month delay how many more refugees would we have taken?

                  We will see these guys coming across our southern border before long.

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                    ![alt text](e787cff9-c211-4429-a16d-266974d2260d-image.png image url)

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                      ![alt text](e787cff9-c211-4429-a16d-266974d2260d-image.png image url)

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                      @copper said in So, how soon before Kabul falls?:

                      ![alt text](e787cff9-c211-4429-a16d-266974d2260d-image.png image url)

                      Is that Obama’s guest list?

                      Education is extremely important.

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