The Ahmaud Arbery shooting
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@89th I am very conflicted on this one. From what I have heard the jogging was legit. If I heard right someone, maybe the killers, saw him stop at a construction site and this reinforced their thinking. Still, I have wandered in construction sites before because they are cool. So, still legit.
Killers were absolutely wrong to arm up and confront. I heard some good analysis about Georgia's citizen arrest law and you have to have witnessed the crime, so they were out of bounds.
I totally would support them following and calling 911 to let the police do their job.
Obviously they tried to stop Arbery (by their own admission) and he must have kept going and blew them off. So they went ahead, cut him off, and stopped.
But it is also clear from the video that Arbery initiates the struggle for the gun.
What is most chilling though, is the son, after shooting Arbery, walks away without a glance as if he knows he "got him".
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The difference between what the investigator told the victim's mother and the video is very damning, and when you consider that alongside what the older shooter used to do for a living, well...
What sucks is that almost nobody will interpret the above without their BLM filter. Plenty of people are going to do everything they can to disagree because they're anti-BLM, and I'm sure to get labeled as a supporter of the whole damn "movement" simply because I think it doesn't look good for the shooters or the investigator in this particular story.
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Most likely a uniformed police officer wouldn’t have arrested a jogger who “looked” like a suspect. I would say these yahoos,but you don’t call murderers that, took the law into their hands scared the shit out of someone. Now he’s dead and they hopefully are going to jail where they belong...and they can think about how many lives they ruined.
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The fact that the second prosecutor assigned to the case felt that charges weren't warranted is pretty chilling. I wonder what would have happened if this video hadn't gone public.
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From the NYT timeline account and the video he looked like a hunted man and it was premeditated. The struggle looked like someone fighting for their life. I would like to hear a back story that told a different narrative if it exists.
To Aqua’s point BLM should be irrelevant to people’s thinking.
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Police interaction with him from a few years ago:
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I don’t really see the relevance. These weren’t law enforcement officers stopping him.
This seems pretty open and shut to me, unless there’s more to this that we haven’t heard. It also sounds like this could (and maybe should) bring down the entire Prosecutor’s Office and some of the Police Force.
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This is a very frustrating situation to me. You have to be so careful in how you word this or you'll (me) end up being called a racist. But there's two stereotypes that are literally coming into play here.. the redneck white boys out to "kill themselves a n______", and the black thug ghetto boy - which is see as the black version of a white redneck.
I don't know enough about the case to express an opinion on who shot John.. But what I see is a black guy switching from being a cooperative adult to a raging ghetto thug and back again, over and over, when some real and professional policemen are dealing with him, and then the latest event where a supposedly decent guy who just happened to be black was depicted as being hunted down by a bunch of redneck white boys.
Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I don't know. I do know that based on his response in the video involving the uniformed officers he had the ability to go total ghetto in a split second, and that's his own fault. Even a racist redneck has the right to defend himself. I sure hope it turns out he wasn't killed because of his race, but this view among many blacks that it's somehow ok to act like a ghetto rat needs to stop too.
