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    Jolly
    wrote on 7 Aug 2021, 22:16 last edited by
    #1

    Racist rock removed!

    https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/watch-now-boulder-that-provoked-controversy-removed-from-uw-madison-campus/article_76141a66-d3e6-5154-b2bc-c63aa31b42d6.html

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 7 Aug 2021, 22:46 last edited by
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      Praise the Lord!

      The Brad

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        Copper
        wrote on 7 Aug 2021, 22:57 last edited by
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        The magic word appeared in this story 100 years ago and that term was never used again

        And that is enough to cause pain and force it's removal

        We are all doomed

        This story was first published in the Wisconsin State Journal on Oct. 9, 1925

        The big boulder on Observatory hill, which is the largest of its kind in the immediate vicinity of Madison, is now out where folks can look at it.

        For centuries the huge granite “niggerhead,” partly visible, has been lying there on the hill, just alongside the cinder drive. For three days a crew of men, with horses, steel cables and capstan of 75-tons pulling capacity have been working to bring it to the surface.

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          7 Aug 2021, 22:57

          The magic word appeared in this story 100 years ago and that term was never used again

          And that is enough to cause pain and force it's removal

          We are all doomed

          This story was first published in the Wisconsin State Journal on Oct. 9, 1925

          The big boulder on Observatory hill, which is the largest of its kind in the immediate vicinity of Madison, is now out where folks can look at it.

          For centuries the huge granite “niggerhead,” partly visible, has been lying there on the hill, just alongside the cinder drive. For three days a crew of men, with horses, steel cables and capstan of 75-tons pulling capacity have been working to bring it to the surface.

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          89th
          wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 12:51 last edited by
          #4

          @copper Well said. If that doesn't encapsulate the current PC/cancel culture we have today, I don't know what else does.

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            Mik
            wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 14:26 last edited by
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            Beyond stupid. These people need to get over themselves.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Loki
              wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 15:58 last edited by
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              Better in the summer than during the school year where it would be a big campus event.

              When you go to UW Madison you have some sense of the political leanings, administration was not brave but tossed the potentially hot potato.

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              • L Loki
                9 Aug 2021, 15:58

                Better in the summer than during the school year where it would be a big campus event.

                When you go to UW Madison you have some sense of the political leanings, administration was not brave but tossed the potentially hot potato.

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                Horace
                wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 18:43 last edited by
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                @loki said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                administration was not brave but tossed the potentially hot potato.

                Yep this is how the stupid proliferates. Nobody wants to get canceled, so they do asinine things. It's why all the dumbest ideas in American culture are to do with race and racism. Because everybody has a gun to their head. Don't pretend to have a coherent thought about this, or else.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • H Horace
                  9 Aug 2021, 18:43

                  @loki said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                  administration was not brave but tossed the potentially hot potato.

                  Yep this is how the stupid proliferates. Nobody wants to get canceled, so they do asinine things. It's why all the dumbest ideas in American culture are to do with race and racism. Because everybody has a gun to their head. Don't pretend to have a coherent thought about this, or else.

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 18:57 last edited by
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                  @horace said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                  @loki said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                  administration was not brave but tossed the potentially hot potato.

                  Yep this is how the stupid proliferates. Nobody wants to get canceled, so they do asinine things. It's why all the dumbest ideas in American culture are to do with race and racism. Because everybody has a gun to their head. Don't pretend to have a coherent thought about this, or else.

                  No argument from me. I often do hear that CRT is not really a thing and it is a made up convention by the right wing. To that point I share the CRT poster that was put out around the Smithonsian for a couple of days before retracted. Those people I have talked to about CRT hadn’t seen it and are a bit stumped.

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                  • L Loki
                    9 Aug 2021, 18:57

                    @horace said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                    @loki said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                    administration was not brave but tossed the potentially hot potato.

                    Yep this is how the stupid proliferates. Nobody wants to get canceled, so they do asinine things. It's why all the dumbest ideas in American culture are to do with race and racism. Because everybody has a gun to their head. Don't pretend to have a coherent thought about this, or else.

                    No argument from me. I often do hear that CRT is not really a thing and it is a made up convention by the right wing. To that point I share the CRT poster that was put out around the Smithonsian for a couple of days before retracted. Those people I have talked to about CRT hadn’t seen it and are a bit stumped.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 19:01 last edited by Horace 8 Sept 2021, 19:01
                    #9

                    @loki said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                    @horace said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                    @loki said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                    administration was not brave but tossed the potentially hot potato.

                    Yep this is how the stupid proliferates. Nobody wants to get canceled, so they do asinine things. It's why all the dumbest ideas in American culture are to do with race and racism. Because everybody has a gun to their head. Don't pretend to have a coherent thought about this, or else.

                    No argument from me. I often do hear that CRT is not really a thing and it is a made up convention by the right wing. To that point I share the CRT poster that was put out around the Smithonsian for a couple of days before retracted. Those people I have talked to about CRT hadn’t seen it and are a bit stumped.

                    The left wants to disavow CRT and marginalize anybody with an issue with it as an ignorant conspiracy theorist. Meanwhile they are very intentionally smuggling in very bad ideas about race and identity politics into the schools and the culture.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 20:33 last edited by
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                      I honestly don't know what CRT is. I haven't seen anybody explain it adequately, other than to say it's an acceptance that there is systemic racism, which isn't particularly shocking.

                      I tried looking it up on Wikipedia but totally lost interest about 2 lines in. To be fair, that happens a lot.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        9 Aug 2021, 20:33

                        I honestly don't know what CRT is. I haven't seen anybody explain it adequately, other than to say it's an acceptance that there is systemic racism, which isn't particularly shocking.

                        I tried looking it up on Wikipedia but totally lost interest about 2 lines in. To be fair, that happens a lot.

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 20:54 last edited by Catseye3 8 Sept 2021, 21:11
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                        @doctor-phibes I don't know what it is, either. I don't care what it is. It appears to have Horace's observation that "all the dumbest ideas in American culture are to do with race and racism" all over it. It's pointless water cooler palaver IMO.

                        Life's too short.

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                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 21:08 last edited by
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                          Meanwhile, a fan at a Colorado Rockies game yelled the mascot's name, Dinger, to get attention and maybe some jumbotron screen time. Someone misheard him, thought he said the Naughty word, and it made national news. Welcome to America!!

                          https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/09/sport/colorado-rockies-baseball-racial-slur/index.html

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            9 Aug 2021, 20:33

                            I honestly don't know what CRT is. I haven't seen anybody explain it adequately, other than to say it's an acceptance that there is systemic racism, which isn't particularly shocking.

                            I tried looking it up on Wikipedia but totally lost interest about 2 lines in. To be fair, that happens a lot.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 21:22 last edited by
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                            @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                            I honestly don't know what CRT is. I haven't seen anybody explain it adequately, other than to say it's an acceptance that there is systemic racism, which isn't particularly shocking.

                            I tried looking it up on Wikipedia but totally lost interest about 2 lines in. To be fair, that happens a lot.

                            White people are bad

                            Especially you

                            That is the basics

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                              George K
                              wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 21:49 last edited by
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                              I can't find the link right now, but somewhere I read that it cost $50K to remove the rock.

                              I'm sure that the student whose tuition went to that purpose is feeling pretty damn woke justified.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                9 Aug 2021, 20:33

                                I honestly don't know what CRT is. I haven't seen anybody explain it adequately, other than to say it's an acceptance that there is systemic racism, which isn't particularly shocking.

                                I tried looking it up on Wikipedia but totally lost interest about 2 lines in. To be fair, that happens a lot.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 22:23 last edited by
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                                @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                I honestly don't know what CRT is. I haven't seen anybody explain it adequately, other than to say it's an acceptance that there is systemic racism, which isn't particularly shocking.

                                I tried looking it up on Wikipedia but totally lost interest about 2 lines in. To be fair, that happens a lot.

                                State of the art leftist messaging would have you be exactly this confused about what CRT is. It would also have you roll your eyes at anybody who questions whether it should be taught in schools. Meanwhile, pre-teen kids are being taught the paranoid identitarianism of Ibram X Kendi, for instance, as we speak.

                                Specific discussions about CRT aren't yet within the Overton window of adults, so the left wants to avoid the discussions for now. Thus the blatant marginalization of anybody who tries. Someday they'll feel safer shedding some light on the "ideas" (term used loosely), as the indoctrinated kids become the adults.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 22:41 last edited by
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                                  Thanks for all that.

                                  I still don't know what it is.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    9 Aug 2021, 22:41

                                    Thanks for all that.

                                    I still don't know what it is.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 22:46 last edited by
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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                    I still don't know what it is.

                                    Watch Ben Shapiro explain it on Maher's show.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K
                                      9 Aug 2021, 22:46

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                      I still don't know what it is.

                                      Watch Ben Shapiro explain it on Maher's show.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 23:01 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Sept 2021, 23:01
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                                      @george-k said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                      I still don't know what it is.

                                      Watch Ben Shapiro explain it on Maher's show.

                                      Well, he kind of says 'it's all very complicated, but in a nutshell...' so it's a bit like the idiots guide to quantum mechanics, except of course it's not actually as complicated as quantum mechanics

                                      I actually made it through the explanation, even though I found all three of them to extremely annoying.

                                      I remain totally unconvinced that is what my kids have been learning in school.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        9 Aug 2021, 23:01

                                        @george-k said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                        I still don't know what it is.

                                        Watch Ben Shapiro explain it on Maher's show.

                                        Well, he kind of says 'it's all very complicated, but in a nutshell...' so it's a bit like the idiots guide to quantum mechanics, except of course it's not actually as complicated as quantum mechanics

                                        I actually made it through the explanation, even though I found all three of them to extremely annoying.

                                        I remain totally unconvinced that is what my kids have been learning in school.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 23:05 last edited by
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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                        I remain totally unconvinced that is what my kids have been learning in school.

                                        Perhaps you should ask your kids, or (gasp) the school?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K
                                          9 Aug 2021, 23:05

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                          I remain totally unconvinced that is what my kids have been learning in school.

                                          Perhaps you should ask your kids, or (gasp) the school?

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 9 Aug 2021, 23:12 last edited by
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                                          @george-k said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Meanwhile, in Wisconsin...:

                                          I remain totally unconvinced that is what my kids have been learning in school.

                                          Perhaps you should ask your kids, or (gasp) the school?

                                          I do speak to my kids - my daughter just got her AP US history - she scored a 5!. I didn't hear much that sounded particularly sinister.

                                          I was only joking

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