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  • CopperC Online
    CopperC Online
    Copper
    wrote on last edited by Copper
    #17

    When would the mandate end?

    This is just another poorly thought out, poorly planned example of mob rule.

    It will kill a few people, then we’ll move on to the next pitchfork brigade.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

      In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.

      If they become part of the application process, lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge.

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      George K
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      #18

      @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

      lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge

      And who would file such charge, the prospective employer?

      Outside of a government job, I doubt that would hold much water. By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

      Or are we just arguing about price that some lies are worse than others?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • HoraceH Online
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #19

        If perjury were a thing, Hillary Clinton, James Comey, and Tony Fauci would be in prison.

        #LockEmUp

        Education is extremely important.

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        • L Loki

          DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.

          Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.

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          Jolly
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          • George KG George K

            @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

            lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge

            And who would file such charge, the prospective employer?

            Outside of a government job, I doubt that would hold much water. By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

            Or are we just arguing about price that some lies are worse than others?

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #21

            @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

            By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

            That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

              By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

              That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

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              @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

              @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

              By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

              That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

              How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

              CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
              • JollyJ Jolly

                @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

                CopperC Online
                CopperC Online
                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

                Not Joe Biden

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                  @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                  @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                  By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                  That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                  How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

                  Not Joe Biden

                  HoraceH Online
                  HoraceH Online
                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  @copper said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                  @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                  @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                  @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                  By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                  That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                  How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

                  Not Joe Biden

                  His son doesn’t need to worry. His resume is one line. “My dad is Joe Biden”. And it’s actually true.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #25

                    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa/florida-texas-schools-defy-governors-bans-on-mask-mandates-as-covid-cases-soar-idUSKBN2FB1ZS

                    Florida, Texas schools defy governors' bans on mask mandates as COVID cases soar

                    (Reuters) -School districts in Florida and Texas are bucking their Republican governors’ bans on requiring masks for children and teachers as coronavirus cases soar in conservative areas with low vaccination rates. …

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      #26

                      Some might. Most won't.

                      Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Some might. Most won't.

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #27

                        @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                        Some might. Most won't.

                        I guess we chalk the number of cases in Florida up to illegal immigrants?

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • CopperC Online
                          CopperC Online
                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #28

                          Or whatever is convenient for your storytelling

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                          • AxtremusA Offline
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                            Axtremus
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                            #29

                            https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/08/12/desantis-backpedals-on-threat-to-withhold-salaries-of-defiant-school-officials-1389870

                            TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration backed down from its threat to withhold school officials’ salaries if they resist his anti-mask rule, saying instead that the defiant officials should be responsible for the “consequences of their decisions.” …

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                            • JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              See George's mask thread...

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                                #31

                                https://floridacapitalstar.com/2021/08/13/floridas-request-for-ventilators-not-due-to-shortage/

                                Florida’s Department of Health asked the federal government for 200 ventilators and 100 high flow nasal oxygen kits to add to Florida’s emergency reserves. DeSantis says he was not aware that the request has been made.

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                                  https://apnews.com/article/health-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-1f88ce7bdcbd971191a71ab8ffd3ac27

                                  ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) — Just over half of Florida’s 2.8 million public school students now face mandates to wear masks in classrooms as a courtroom battle continues over efforts by Gov. Ron DeSantis to leave such decisions up to parents.
                                  …

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/08/27/florida-schools-mask-ruling/

                                    A Florida judge ruled Friday that Gov. Ron DeSantis’s administration overstepped its authority in restricting school districts from enacting mask mandates after parents sued officials amid a surge in coronavirus infections.


                                    Judge John C. Cooper of Florida’s 2nd Circuit sided with parents from six Florida counties who challenged DeSantis (R) and state education officials in court this week, arguing that the governor’s order infringes on classroom safety guaranteed by the state’s constitution.
                                    …

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Mik
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                                      #34

                                      It's going on in my home town too. Unfortunately I have a couple friends who are on the school board. Poor bastards.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/08/30/florida-defies-judge-and-punishes-two-school-districts-over-masks-1390582

                                        TALLAHASSEE — The Florida Department of Education on Monday defied a recent ruling from a state judge and leveled its first sanctions against school board members who rejected the DeSantis administration’s orders on local mask mandates.
                                        ...

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                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/07/miami-dade-school-workers-covid-19/

                                          13 Miami-area school staffers have died of covid-19 this school year

                                          Miami-Dade County Public Schools are reporting at least 13 employee deaths from covid-19 since mid-August, a tally that forecasts what could be a grim autumn for Florida educators.
                                          ...

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