DeSantis is such a douchebag
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DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.
Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.
@loki said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.
Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.
Mandates are fine by me. Make it as mandatory as possible.
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It would be interesting to see how mandates are enforced. I guess they'd have to make proof of vaccination a requirement to procure government services, such as getting a drivers license.
In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.
Can we safely assume that proof of vaccination won't be a requirement to vote?
Will they administer vaccinations in prisons by force, to those unwilling? Or just keep them in prison indefinitely until they consented? Good times...
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It would be interesting to see how mandates are enforced. I guess they'd have to make proof of vaccination a requirement to procure government services, such as getting a drivers license.
In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.
Can we safely assume that proof of vaccination won't be a requirement to vote?
Will they administer vaccinations in prisons by force, to those unwilling? Or just keep them in prison indefinitely until they consented? Good times...
@horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.
If they become part of the application process, lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge.
Please love yourself.
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@horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.
If they become part of the application process, lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge.
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge
And who would file such charge, the prospective employer?
Outside of a government job, I doubt that would hold much water. By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
Or are we just arguing
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DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.
Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.
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@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge
And who would file such charge, the prospective employer?
Outside of a government job, I doubt that would hold much water. By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
Or are we just arguing
about pricethat some lies are worse than others?@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
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@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?
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@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?
@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?
Not Joe Biden
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@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?
Not Joe Biden
@copper said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?
Not Joe Biden
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Florida, Texas schools defy governors' bans on mask mandates as COVID cases soar
(Reuters) -School districts in Florida and Texas are bucking their Republican governors’ bans on requiring masks for children and teachers as coronavirus cases soar in conservative areas with low vaccination rates. …
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@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Some might. Most won't.
I guess we chalk the number of cases in Florida up to illegal immigrants?
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TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration backed down from its threat to withhold school officials’ salaries if they resist his anti-mask rule, saying instead that the defiant officials should be responsible for the “consequences of their decisions.” …
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https://floridacapitalstar.com/2021/08/13/floridas-request-for-ventilators-not-due-to-shortage/
Florida’s Department of Health asked the federal government for 200 ventilators and 100 high flow nasal oxygen kits to add to Florida’s emergency reserves. DeSantis says he was not aware that the request has been made.
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https://apnews.com/article/health-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-1f88ce7bdcbd971191a71ab8ffd3ac27
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) — Just over half of Florida’s 2.8 million public school students now face mandates to wear masks in classrooms as a courtroom battle continues over efforts by Gov. Ron DeSantis to leave such decisions up to parents.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/08/27/florida-schools-mask-ruling/
A Florida judge ruled Friday that Gov. Ron DeSantis’s administration overstepped its authority in restricting school districts from enacting mask mandates after parents sued officials amid a surge in coronavirus infections.
Judge John C. Cooper of Florida’s 2nd Circuit sided with parents from six Florida counties who challenged DeSantis (R) and state education officials in court this week, arguing that the governor’s order infringes on classroom safety guaranteed by the state’s constitution.
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