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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 16:51 last edited by
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    Can we just fast forward to the part where we start mounting flamethrowers to our cars?

    The Brad

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    • H Horace
      10 Aug 2021, 16:48

      @jon-nyc said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

      I was on a call with some pulmonary critical care docs yesterday. At shands hospital (UofF) fully half of ICU nurses are unvaccinated. At UAB the number was 60%.

      Trumpists?

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      jon-nyc
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      @horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

      @jon-nyc said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

      I was on a call with some pulmonary critical care docs yesterday. At shands hospital (UofF) fully half of ICU nurses are unvaccinated. At UAB the number was 60%.

      Trumpists?

      Prolly Bloomberg write-ins.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 16:57 last edited by
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        Borowitz:

        "DeSantis Losing Support Among Voters Opposed to Dying.
        The Governor’s favorability numbers are plummeting among Floridians who describe themselves as “somewhat,” “very,” or “strongly” opposed to being dead."

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Loki
          wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 18:19 last edited by Loki 8 Oct 2021, 18:20
          #13

          DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.

          Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.

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          • L Loki
            10 Aug 2021, 18:19

            DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.

            Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 18:42 last edited by
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            @loki said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

            DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.

            Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.

            Mandates are fine by me. Make it as mandatory as possible.

            Please love yourself.

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              Horace
              wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 18:58 last edited by
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              It would be interesting to see how mandates are enforced. I guess they'd have to make proof of vaccination a requirement to procure government services, such as getting a drivers license.

              In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.

              Can we safely assume that proof of vaccination won't be a requirement to vote?

              Will they administer vaccinations in prisons by force, to those unwilling? Or just keep them in prison indefinitely until they consented? Good times...

              Education is extremely important.

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              • H Horace
                10 Aug 2021, 18:58

                It would be interesting to see how mandates are enforced. I guess they'd have to make proof of vaccination a requirement to procure government services, such as getting a drivers license.

                In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.

                Can we safely assume that proof of vaccination won't be a requirement to vote?

                Will they administer vaccinations in prisons by force, to those unwilling? Or just keep them in prison indefinitely until they consented? Good times...

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 19:02 last edited by
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                @horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.

                If they become part of the application process, lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge.

                Please love yourself.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 19:21 last edited by Copper 8 Oct 2021, 23:06
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                  When would the mandate end?

                  This is just another poorly thought out, poorly planned example of mob rule.

                  It will kill a few people, then we’ll move on to the next pitchfork brigade.

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                    10 Aug 2021, 19:02

                    @horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                    In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.

                    If they become part of the application process, lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 19:31 last edited by
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                    @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                    lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge

                    And who would file such charge, the prospective employer?

                    Outside of a government job, I doubt that would hold much water. By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                    Or are we just arguing about price that some lies are worse than others?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 19:33 last edited by
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                      If perjury were a thing, Hillary Clinton, James Comey, and Tony Fauci would be in prison.

                      #LockEmUp

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • L Loki
                        10 Aug 2021, 18:19

                        DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.

                        Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 19:40 last edited by Jolly 8 Oct 2021, 19:41
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                        • G George K
                          10 Aug 2021, 19:31

                          @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                          lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge

                          And who would file such charge, the prospective employer?

                          Outside of a government job, I doubt that would hold much water. By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                          Or are we just arguing about price that some lies are worse than others?

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 20:56 last edited by
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                          @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                          By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                          That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            10 Aug 2021, 20:56

                            @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                            By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                            That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 21:18 last edited by
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                            @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                            @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                            By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                            That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                            How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

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                            • J Jolly
                              10 Aug 2021, 21:18

                              @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                              @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                              By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                              That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                              How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 23:07 last edited by
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                              @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                              @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                              @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                              By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                              That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                              How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

                              Not Joe Biden

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                              • C Copper
                                10 Aug 2021, 23:07

                                @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                                That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                                How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

                                Not Joe Biden

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 10 Aug 2021, 23:30 last edited by
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                                @copper said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                @aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                @george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?

                                That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.

                                How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?

                                Not Joe Biden

                                His son doesn’t need to worry. His resume is one line. “My dad is Joe Biden”. And it’s actually true.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 11 Aug 2021, 01:23 last edited by
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                                  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa/florida-texas-schools-defy-governors-bans-on-mask-mandates-as-covid-cases-soar-idUSKBN2FB1ZS

                                  Florida, Texas schools defy governors' bans on mask mandates as COVID cases soar

                                  (Reuters) -School districts in Florida and Texas are bucking their Republican governors’ bans on requiring masks for children and teachers as coronavirus cases soar in conservative areas with low vaccination rates. …

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 11 Aug 2021, 02:38 last edited by
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                                    Some might. Most won't.

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      11 Aug 2021, 02:38

                                      Some might. Most won't.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 11 Aug 2021, 20:31 last edited by
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                                      @jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:

                                      Some might. Most won't.

                                      I guess we chalk the number of cases in Florida up to illegal immigrants?

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 11 Aug 2021, 21:23 last edited by
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                                        Or whatever is convenient for your storytelling

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 13 Aug 2021, 04:11 last edited by
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                                          https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/08/12/desantis-backpedals-on-threat-to-withhold-salaries-of-defiant-school-officials-1389870

                                          TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration backed down from its threat to withhold school officials’ salaries if they resist his anti-mask rule, saying instead that the defiant officials should be responsible for the “consequences of their decisions.” …

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