DeSantis is such a douchebag
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Here’s the danger, he and Abbot are basing their decisions on lessons learned from Alpha. Delta seems to be very different and is far more a threat to kids. Frankly, I am very glad to not have a school aged child in the house right now. I am concerned this fall will be the worst that we have seen:
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I was on a call with some pulmonary critical care docs yesterday. At shands hospital (UofF) fully half of ICU nurses are unvaccinated. At UAB the number was 60%.
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Can we just fast forward to the part where we start mounting flamethrowers to our cars?
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@horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@jon-nyc said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
I was on a call with some pulmonary critical care docs yesterday. At shands hospital (UofF) fully half of ICU nurses are unvaccinated. At UAB the number was 60%.
Trumpists?
Prolly Bloomberg write-ins.
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DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.
Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.
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@loki said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
DeSantis is fighting an uphill battle with vaccine mandates. He may appeal to his base but mandates will be the way we get through this. So far treatments, incentives, bullying, berating and coaxing have been ineffective at moving the needle fast enough.
Mandates could still lose in the courts but this is the play and it is unfolding faster than I thought possible.
Mandates are fine by me. Make it as mandatory as possible.
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It would be interesting to see how mandates are enforced. I guess they'd have to make proof of vaccination a requirement to procure government services, such as getting a drivers license.
In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.
Can we safely assume that proof of vaccination won't be a requirement to vote?
Will they administer vaccinations in prisons by force, to those unwilling? Or just keep them in prison indefinitely until they consented? Good times...
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@horace said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
In the context of my own life, I'm already at a mandate. Get vaccinated or reshuffle my career.
If they become part of the application process, lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge.
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@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
lying about a vaccination might carry with it a perjury charge
And who would file such charge, the prospective employer?
Outside of a government job, I doubt that would hold much water. By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
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@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
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@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?
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@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@george-k said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
By that standard, anyone who lies on a job application is subject to perjury, right?
That's what I'm getting at. Even completely non-governmental jobs around here have at the end of the application "I certify, under penalty of perjury," etc. So if vaccination proof is part of that... well then I don't know.
How many people have you seen prosecuted for perjury on a job ap?
Not Joe Biden