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    Loki
    wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 17:43 last edited by
    #5

    Excuse me, is anyone suggesting an individual and society’s best statistical odds is anything but the vaccine?

    Really?

    Is this what we’ve come to?

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    • L Loki
      31 Jul 2021, 17:43

      Excuse me, is anyone suggesting an individual and society’s best statistical odds is anything but the vaccine?

      Really?

      Is this what we’ve come to?

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      Horace
      wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 17:48 last edited by
      #6

      @loki said in 74%:

      Excuse me, is anyone suggesting an individual and society’s best statistical odds is anything but the vaccine?

      I don't know. But, you could re-read whatever it is that made you believe that suggestion was being made, and come to your own conclusion as to what, if anything, was actually suggested. Based on an objective, dispassionate attempt at reading comprehension and empathy for the writer.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Loki
        wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 19:28 last edited by Loki
        #7

        Is this the right way to look at the data?

        https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccinated-americans-delta-covid-cases-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

        Outcomes of COVID-19 vaccinated Americans
        Of 164m fully vaccinated in the U.S. as of July 31, 2021

        Not infected
        99.923%
        Breakthrough cases
        00.077
        Hospitalized
        00.004
        Died
        00.001

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        • L Loki
          31 Jul 2021, 19:28

          Is this the right way to look at the data?

          https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccinated-americans-delta-covid-cases-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

          Outcomes of COVID-19 vaccinated Americans
          Of 164m fully vaccinated in the U.S. as of July 31, 2021

          Not infected
          99.923%
          Breakthrough cases
          00.077
          Hospitalized
          00.004
          Died
          00.001

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          Copper
          wrote on 31 Jul 2021, 19:58 last edited by
          #8

          @loki said in 74%:

          Is this the right way to look at the data?

          That depends on your goal.

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          • L Loki
            31 Jul 2021, 19:28

            Is this the right way to look at the data?

            https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccinated-americans-delta-covid-cases-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

            Outcomes of COVID-19 vaccinated Americans
            Of 164m fully vaccinated in the U.S. as of July 31, 2021

            Not infected
            99.923%
            Breakthrough cases
            00.077
            Hospitalized
            00.004
            Died
            00.001

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            89th
            wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 03:12 last edited by
            #9

            @loki said in 74%:

            Is this the right way to look at the data?

            https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccinated-americans-delta-covid-cases-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

            Outcomes of COVID-19 vaccinated Americans
            Of 164m fully vaccinated in the U.S. as of July 31, 2021

            Not infected
            99.923%
            Breakthrough cases
            00.077
            Hospitalized
            00.004
            Died
            00.001

            Yup. Basically.

            H 1 Reply Last reply 1 Aug 2021, 03:45
            • 8 89th
              1 Aug 2021, 03:12

              @loki said in 74%:

              Is this the right way to look at the data?

              https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccinated-americans-delta-covid-cases-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

              Outcomes of COVID-19 vaccinated Americans
              Of 164m fully vaccinated in the U.S. as of July 31, 2021

              Not infected
              99.923%
              Breakthrough cases
              00.077
              Hospitalized
              00.004
              Died
              00.001

              Yup. Basically.

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              Horace
              wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 03:45 last edited by Horace 8 Jan 2021, 03:46
              #10

              @89th said in 74%:

              @loki said in 74%:

              Is this the right way to look at the data?

              https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccinated-americans-delta-covid-cases-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

              Outcomes of COVID-19 vaccinated Americans
              Of 164m fully vaccinated in the U.S. as of July 31, 2021

              Not infected
              99.923%
              Breakthrough cases
              00.077
              Hospitalized
              00.004
              Died
              00.001

              Yup. Basically.

              Good luck convincing the TNCR anti vaxers of any of that. Hard data that the vaccinations are effective conflicts with their world view, so they refuse to acknowledge it. They probably think the numbers are faked in some sort of grand conspiracy. Here’s my prediction: the number of anti vax posts on this board will not decrease at all, even after those stats have been posted.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 13:14 last edited by
                #11

                That post is a hoot, since AFAIK, there are no anti-vaxers on this board. 😀

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  1 Aug 2021, 13:14

                  That post is a hoot, since AFAIK, there are no anti-vaxers on this board. 😀

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 13:32 last edited by
                  #12

                  @jolly said in 74%:

                  That post is a hoot, since AFAIK, there are no anti-vaxers on this board. 😀

                  I was channeling Loki’s perception of reality. It was a deeply empathic post. I had to feel feelings to a level that destroyed my ability to describe reality. That said, it was simple, fun, and comfortably righteous, so I get the draw.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • H Horace
                    1 Aug 2021, 13:32

                    @jolly said in 74%:

                    That post is a hoot, since AFAIK, there are no anti-vaxers on this board. 😀

                    I was channeling Loki’s perception of reality. It was a deeply empathic post. I had to feel feelings to a level that destroyed my ability to describe reality. That said, it was simple, fun, and comfortably righteous, so I get the draw.

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:00 last edited by
                    #13

                    @horace said in 74%:

                    @jolly said in 74%:

                    That post is a hoot, since AFAIK, there are no anti-vaxers on this board. 😀

                    I was channeling Loki’s perception of reality. It was a deeply empathic post. I had to feel feelings to a level that destroyed my ability to describe reality. That said, it was simple, fun, and comfortably righteous, so I get the draw.

                    You are having far too much fun with this, so please carry on.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:05 last edited by
                      #14

                      Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        1 Aug 2021, 15:05

                        Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:07 last edited by
                        #15

                        @mik said in 74%:

                        Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

                        He's shot his wad. Who listens to Fauci, anymore? If Biden were smart, he'd shove Fauci to the side and get a new talking head.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          1 Aug 2021, 15:07

                          @mik said in 74%:

                          Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

                          He's shot his wad. Who listens to Fauci, anymore? If Biden were smart, he'd shove Fauci to the side and get a new talking head.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:14 last edited by Loki 8 Jan 2021, 15:14
                          #16

                          @jolly said in 74%:

                          @mik said in 74%:

                          Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

                          He's shot his wad. Who listens to Fauci, anymore? If Biden were smart, he'd shove Fauci to the side and get a new talking head.

                          I’d say a minority of people feel that way, but they are very vocal so you might have consider that in your point of view.

                          Mostly it has been reported that the majority of people are fed up with vax hesitant and their apologists.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:33 last edited by LuFins Dad 8 Jan 2021, 15:39
                            #17

                            @loki said in 74%:

                            And we know how trustworthy the reporting is…

                            The Brad

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                            • L Loki
                              1 Aug 2021, 15:14

                              @jolly said in 74%:

                              @mik said in 74%:

                              Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

                              He's shot his wad. Who listens to Fauci, anymore? If Biden were smart, he'd shove Fauci to the side and get a new talking head.

                              I’d say a minority of people feel that way, but they are very vocal so you might have consider that in your point of view.

                              Mostly it has been reported that the majority of people are fed up with vax hesitant and their apologists.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:36 last edited by
                              #18

                              @loki said in 74%:

                              @jolly said in 74%:

                              @mik said in 74%:

                              Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

                              He's shot his wad. Who listens to Fauci, anymore? If Biden were smart, he'd shove Fauci to the side and get a new talking head.

                              I’d say a minority of people feel that way, but they are very vocal so you might have consider that in your point of view.

                              Mostly it has been reported that the majority of people are fed up with vax hesitant and their apologists.

                              IT HAS BEEN REPORTED...Try getting out and talking to some real people...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                1 Aug 2021, 15:07

                                @mik said in 74%:

                                Fauci says it's going to get worse, need more folks vaxxed.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-warns-things-are-going-to-get-worse-with-covid/ar-AAMOmg5?ocid=msedgntp

                                He's shot his wad. Who listens to Fauci, anymore? If Biden were smart, he'd shove Fauci to the side and get a new talking head.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:57 last edited by
                                #19

                                @jolly said in 74%:

                                Who listens to Fauci, anymore?

                                Millions of Americans who are not you.

                                Please love yourself.

                                J D 2 Replies Last reply 1 Aug 2021, 16:22
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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 15:59 last edited by
                                  #20

                                  It has been reported that those dying of Covid did not get the vaccine.

                                  J L 2 Replies Last reply 1 Aug 2021, 16:26
                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    1 Aug 2021, 15:57

                                    @jolly said in 74%:

                                    Who listens to Fauci, anymore?

                                    Millions of Americans who are not you.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 16:22 last edited by
                                    #21

                                    @aqua-letifer said in 74%:

                                    @jolly said in 74%:

                                    Who listens to Fauci, anymore?

                                    Millions of Americans who are not you.

                                    And millions who don't.

                                    The man has lost all credibility with a large segment of the population. You want somebody people will listen to, or you'd rather die on Fauci Hill?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • J Jolly
                                      1 Aug 2021, 16:22

                                      @aqua-letifer said in 74%:

                                      @jolly said in 74%:

                                      Who listens to Fauci, anymore?

                                      Millions of Americans who are not you.

                                      And millions who don't.

                                      The man has lost all credibility with a large segment of the population. You want somebody people will listen to, or you'd rather die on Fauci Hill?

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 16:23 last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @jolly said in 74%:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in 74%:

                                      @jolly said in 74%:

                                      Who listens to Fauci, anymore?

                                      Millions of Americans who are not you.

                                      And millions who don't.

                                      The man has lost all credibility with a large segment of the population. You want somebody people will listen to, or you'd rather die on Fauci Hill?

                                      Um you are making a case that I don’t believe exists. It’s the other way around. Fauci is actually in no trouble at all.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 16:23 last edited by
                                        #23

                                        Everybody listens to Fauci. We all have different takes on what he says, depending on our understanding of his primary goal of providing messaging that will motivate people in the way he wants to motivate them. There is, of course, some potential difference between that sort of talking head, and being an honest broker of all relevant scientific evidence.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • L Loki
                                          1 Aug 2021, 15:59

                                          It has been reported that those dying of Covid did not get the vaccine.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 1 Aug 2021, 16:26 last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @loki said in 74%:

                                          It has been reported that those dying of Covid did not get the vaccine.

                                          Yeah, and I'm seeing people who are very sick, who have been vaccinated. If you've looked around, you'll notice we were picking up a patient this morning because nobody else had a COVID bed within a hundred miles.

                                          Get you a white coat and get your ass in the game. It's a life-changing perspective...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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