Good luck getting volunteers in the future.

[George K]

https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/health-workers-that-volunteered-to-come-to-ny-during-pandemic-have-to-pay-state-income-tax-cuomo?fbclid=IwAR19XeNYt3NAMXbC9XUSumBmyFBtjtYqrpe0WOgiSN6ZJuU-j_I_xXKKXhY

Health care workers that came to New York to help fight the coronavirus pandemic at its epicenter will have to pay state taxes, according to the governor.

He addressed the issues Tuesday at a news conference.

"We're not in a position to provide any subsidies right now because we have a $13 billion deficit," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. "So there's a lot of good things I'd like to do, and if we get federal funding, we can do, but it would be irresponsible for me to sit here looking at a $13 billion deficit and say I'm gonna spend more money, when I can't even pay the essential services."

Even though the state government asked thousands of people to come to New York from out of state to help fight coronavirus, they will have to pay New York state taxes, even on income they might make from their home states that they're paid while in New York.

Cuomo said he needs help from Washington in order to cover budget deficits from COVID-19, let alone subsidize state income tax for essential workers that flocked to New York's aid.

"If we don't get more money from Washington, we can't fund schools, right, so at the rate we want to fund them. We are in dire financial need," he said.

[Horace]

stretching the definition of "volunteer" there.

[Mik]

Bad, bad optics. Maybe its his way of saying he doesn't want to be president.

[jon-nyc]

Why are those bad optics? Who would expect these people not to pay taxes?

[Rich]

@jon-nyc

Not many expect workers not to pay taxes.

However, New York tends to be much more heavy handed than other states when it comes to requiring people who work in the state for even a very short time (I think essentially from day one) to file a New York state tax return.

This is something those who plan/attend conventions are pretty well aware of...And we plan to attend, (or not!) and sell goods at conventions based in NY with that states policies in mind. Most healthcare workers are not frequently in this position, and are being caught off guard, making them feel like they just got a nice little 'fuck you' from the state.... "Hey, thanks for answering our desperate pleas for help...Don't forget you get to pay our tax rates, and pay your tax person to file another return!"

I'll admit-not the most devastating thing in the world, but at least in the short term...bad optics.

[George K]

I get the law. I don't even necessarily disagree with it.

What I don't understand is how it is that these "volunteers" were being paid.

As Horace points out, to "volunteer" is to give. To get paid is to be employed.

[Rich]

Perhaps they 'volunteered' to allow themselves to be transferred to a different state in order to help with the virus, similar to how a company opening a new location may look for existing employees to 'volunteer' to be transferred.

[jon-nyc]

I think the word volunteer is being used loosely.

I think they 'volunteered' to go to NYC for a while to work temporarily. Like having an "all-volunteer' Army.

[George K]

@jon-nyc which is basically Horace said.

[Mik]

@jon-nyc said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

Why are those bad optics? Who would expect these people not to pay taxes?

"Even though the state government asked thousands of people to come to New York from out of state to help fight coronavirus, they will have to pay New York state taxes, even on income they might make from their home states that they're paid while in New York."

That's fucked up.

[Rainman]

My wife is an RN, she is, or was, getting emails asking if she had an interest to relocate to hard-hit areas, for $4500/week.

[Copper]

@George-K said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

"If we don't get more money from Washington, we can't fund schools, right, so at the rate we want to fund them. We are in dire financial need," he said.

Stop spending.

Balance your budget.

Idiot.

[jon-nyc]

It’s not that fucked up. I did it for years as a consultant. Always had multiple state returns.

[jon-nyc]

Try to imagine if they had tried to get a change in the tax code through the legislature in time for this.

All so that these people wouldn’t lose 5% of their 4500/week for 3-5 weeks.

[Mik]

@jon-nyc said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

It’s not that fucked up. I did it for years as a consultant. Always had multiple state returns.

Me too. But I did not have to pay Wisconsin taxes for money I received from Ohio clients.

[Loki]

They should pay taxes. They got paid really well and now they want an extra bump? I guess it tells you how people feel about taxes generally but it sounds entitled in this case.

[Axtremus]

@Mik said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

@jon-nyc said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

It’s not that fucked up. I did it for years as a consultant. Always had multiple state returns.

Me too. But I did not have to pay Wisconsin taxes for money I received from Ohio clients.

Depends on Wisconsin tax law, whether/how you performed work in Wisconsin, and what interstate compact Ohio might have with Wisconsin, if any.

[jon-nyc]

@Mik said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

@jon-nyc said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

It’s not that fucked up. I did it for years as a consultant. Always had multiple state returns.

Me too. But I did not have to pay Wisconsin taxes for money I received from Ohio clients.

I don’t know the specific details but it isn't generally true. Sounds like the press blew up some very special case to try to scratch the ‘nothing’ off of this burger.

[Improviso]

Yea... ya better hope that second wave doesn't hit NYC.

Good luck getting anyone to go...

[Loki]

@Improviso said in Good luck getting volunteers in the future.:

Yea... ya better hope that second wave doesn't hit NYC.

Good luck getting anyone to go...

You think 5-8% less on 200k annualized will make a difference?