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  • CopperC Copper

    It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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    Loki
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    @copper said in Treatments Needed:

    It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

    Turns out you are on to something. Here is Delta’s approach:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/delta-air-lines-unvaccinated-employees-will-face-200-fees-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine.html

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      Wife's podiatrist has a different approach...Get vaccinated and get COVID, he'll pay up to 30 days of salary while you're out sick. Do not get vaccinated and get COVID, no salary while you're out.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

        Education is extremely important.

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          @copper said in Treatments Needed:

          It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

          Turns out you are on to something. Here is Delta’s approach:

          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/delta-air-lines-unvaccinated-employees-will-face-200-fees-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine.html

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          @loki said in Treatments Needed:

          @copper said in Treatments Needed:

          It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

          Turns out you are on to something. Here is Delta’s approach:

          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/delta-air-lines-unvaccinated-employees-will-face-200-fees-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine.html

          No problem with that at all. $2400 seems a bit much, I would like to see the math, but otherwise it’s fine.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

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            @horace said in Treatments Needed:

            My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

            I would not thin that would fly in California.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              @horace said in Treatments Needed:

              My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

              I would not thin that would fly in California.

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              @mik said in Treatments Needed:

              @horace said in Treatments Needed:

              My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

              I would not thin that would fly in California.

              I may be wrong about the unemployment bit. But the lack of severance was justified as due to having been fired for cause. Which I thought disallowed unemployment benefits. But I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mistaken about that.

              Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @mik said in Treatments Needed:

                  @horace said in Treatments Needed:

                  My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

                  I would not thin that would fly in California.

                  I may be wrong about the unemployment bit. But the lack of severance was justified as due to having been fired for cause. Which I thought disallowed unemployment benefits. But I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mistaken about that.

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                  @horace said in Treatments Needed:

                  @mik said in Treatments Needed:

                  @horace said in Treatments Needed:

                  My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

                  I would not thin that would fly in California.

                  I may be wrong about the unemployment bit. But the lack of severance was justified as due to having been fired for cause. Which I thought disallowed unemployment benefits. But I wouldn't be surprised if I'm mistaken about that.

                  Fired for cause negates unemployment benefits down here.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • L Loki

                    @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                    HOLY SHIT! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

                    Critical nursing shortages around the country. Very pronounced in Texas and Florida.

                    Many reasons but treating avoidable deaths and serious issues has lead to serious burnout.

                    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/nursing/state-of-the-nursing-shortage-7-notes.html

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                    @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                    Critical nursing shortages around the country. Very pronounced in Texas and Florida.
                    Many reasons but treating avoidable deaths and serious issues has lead to serious burnout.
                    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/nursing/state-of-the-nursing-shortage-7-notes.html

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Dude...They don't give a shit. Until you turn them away, it's not changing.

                      Won't happen under this President, but we seriously need to revisit EMTALA.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Dude...They don't give a shit. Until you turn them away, it's not changing.

                        Won't happen under this President, but we seriously need to revisit EMTALA.

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                        @jolly said in Treatments Needed:

                        Dude...They don't give a shit. Until you turn them away, it's not changing.

                        Won't happen under this President, but we seriously need to revisit EMTALA.

                        EMTALA only relates to ability to pay, doesn't it?

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @jolly said in Treatments Needed:

                          Dude...They don't give a shit. Until you turn them away, it's not changing.

                          Won't happen under this President, but we seriously need to revisit EMTALA.

                          EMTALA only relates to ability to pay, doesn't it?

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                          @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                          @jolly said in Treatments Needed:

                          Dude...They don't give a shit. Until you turn them away, it's not changing.

                          Won't happen under this President, but we seriously need to revisit EMTALA.

                          EMTALA only relates to ability to pay, doesn't it?

                          The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay, but since its enactment in 1986 has remained an unfunded mandate.

                          stabilized and treated is where I'm going. Too many people think healthcare is an infinite commodity delivered by an inexhaustible supply of trained professionals. COVID vaccination? I don't need vaccinating, even though I understand less than 10% of inpatients with COVID are vaccinated and over 90% are not. I even understand that less than 0.5% of hospital COVID deaths come from vaccinated patients. But that doesn't matter...If I do come down with COVID, even though unvaccinated, I can show up in you ED and I should receive the best care that money and trained staff can deliver.

                          North Texas Hospital Association has kicked around the idea of including vaccination status in the triage process. Simply, save the people who have the best chance of recovery, all other things being equal. So maybe, just maybe, people might reconsider their stance on healthcare, if they know it may not be there for them when they really, really need it.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Over 10,000 treated in Florida so far...

                            https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/08/25/covid-florida-more-than-10000-received-monoclonal-antibody-treatment/

                            The stuff seems to be reducing hospitalizations by about 70%... Hospitalization rates in Florida are about 10%, so out of the 10,000 treatments, 1000 likely would have been hospitalized, but the treatments should bring the total down to 300...

                            That's good, but to make a dent, they need to start reaching 2K-3K people per day...

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                              But is there enough, can there possibly be enough, to use that nationally?

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                But is there enough, can there possibly be enough, to use that nationally?

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                                @mik said in Treatments Needed:

                                But is there enough, can there possibly be enough, to use that nationally?

                                I wonder.

                                When Florida started, we had guys that were lined up, but had to wait a day or two because of product scarcity. And the treatment is most effective when done early.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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