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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 15:11 last edited by
    #5

    COME ON, PFIZER PILL! DO YOUR SHIT, PFIZER PILL!!!

    A handful of other companies are working on similar, too.

    Please love yourself.

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    • A Aqua Letifer
      24 Aug 2021, 15:11

      COME ON, PFIZER PILL! DO YOUR SHIT, PFIZER PILL!!!

      A handful of other companies are working on similar, too.

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      Loki
      wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 16:33 last edited by
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      @aqua-letifer said in Treatments Needed:

      COME ON, PFIZER PILL! DO YOUR SHIT, PFIZER PILL!!!

      A handful of other companies are working on similar, too.

      really!!

      I saw a Kaiser Family Foundation report today. In June and July the unvaccinated cost the US Health System 2.3 billion. That’s $20,000 per unvaccinated head. We are a very benevolent country in terms of benefits and we talk about stamping out food stamps. LOL.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 16:58 last edited by
        #7

        I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

        The Brad

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        • L LuFins Dad
          24 Aug 2021, 16:58

          I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

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          Loki
          wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 17:38 last edited by
          #8

          @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

          I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

          Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

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          • L Loki
            24 Aug 2021, 17:38

            @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

            I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

            Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 17:46 last edited by
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            @loki said in Treatments Needed:

            @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

            I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

            Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

            So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

            The Brad

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            • L LuFins Dad
              24 Aug 2021, 17:46

              @loki said in Treatments Needed:

              @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

              I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

              Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

              So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

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              Loki
              wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 17:51 last edited by
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              @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

              @loki said in Treatments Needed:

              @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

              I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

              Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

              So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

              So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

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              • L Loki
                24 Aug 2021, 17:51

                @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 18:27 last edited by
                #11

                @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

                I think you misunderstand a whole hell of a lot. “Let’s blow it” are you bitching about money spent on hospitalizations of smokers? Accident victims that weren’t wearing their seatbelts? How about all the billions spent thanks to COPD because people are too fat?

                The Brad

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  24 Aug 2021, 18:27

                  @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                  @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                  @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                  @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                  I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                  Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                  So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                  So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

                  I think you misunderstand a whole hell of a lot. “Let’s blow it” are you bitching about money spent on hospitalizations of smokers? Accident victims that weren’t wearing their seatbelts? How about all the billions spent thanks to COPD because people are too fat?

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 18:52 last edited by
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                  @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                  @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                  @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                  @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                  @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                  I wasn’t aware that the US was providing free healthcare to COVID patients. Here I thought it was the patient’s insurance paying for their own care.

                  Well of course nothing is free. Most hospitalizations are Medicare and Medicaid so you are funding it one way or another or it gets added to the debt. All anethemas to GOP tax and debt platforms.

                  So the majority of the hospitalizations are elderly, and they are using the system that they and their families have paid into every single week for their entire working lives. Got it.

                  So let’s just blow it on 20k hospitalizations? I think I must be misunderstanding you.

                  I think you misunderstand a whole hell of a lot. “Let’s blow it” are you bitching about money spent on hospitalizations of smokers? Accident victims that weren’t wearing their seatbelts? How about all the billions spent thanks to COPD because people are too fat?

                  There is a vaccine. It costs nothing. You say in the name of liberty a person has a right to 20k hospitalization cost. Ok. How does that square with your GOP proclivities of not wanting higher taxes to fund that incremental expense or do you just want to add to our debt. It’s a simple math exercise. New expenses, how do they get paid? You say the money is already there, but it isn’t it’s EXTRA expense.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 19:00 last edited by
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                    It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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                    • C Copper
                      24 Aug 2021, 19:00

                      It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 19:00 last edited by
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                      @copper said in Treatments Needed:

                      It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

                      So funny. You sound like a democrat.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 19:29 last edited by
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                        Study shows unvaccinated people 29 times more likely to be hospitalized.

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 20:18 last edited by
                          #16

                          HOLY SHIT! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

                          The Brad

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                          • C Copper
                            24 Aug 2021, 19:00

                            It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 20:21 last edited by
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                            @copper said in Treatments Needed:

                            It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

                            Actuaries. Some of the smartest people on the planet.

                            Not always good at parties...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              24 Aug 2021, 20:18

                              HOLY SHIT! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 22:38 last edited by
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                              @lufins-dad said in Treatments Needed:

                              HOLY SHIT! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

                              Critical nursing shortages around the country. Very pronounced in Texas and Florida.

                              Many reasons but treating avoidable deaths and serious issues has lead to serious burnout.

                              https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/nursing/state-of-the-nursing-shortage-7-notes.html

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 22:50 last edited by
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                                Well holy crap! Let’s offer free tickets to a Garth Brooks concert and hide vaccine needles in the seats! That should take care of the problem.

                                The Brad

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 00:25 last edited by
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                                  Beancounters. And the government.

                                  That's the problem with the current nursing (and it's actually ICU nurses, for the most part) shortage.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • C Copper
                                    24 Aug 2021, 19:00

                                    It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:09 last edited by
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                                    @copper said in Treatments Needed:

                                    It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

                                    Turns out you are on to something. Here is Delta’s approach:

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/delta-air-lines-unvaccinated-employees-will-face-200-fees-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine.html

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:29 last edited by
                                      #22

                                      Wife's podiatrist has a different approach...Get vaccinated and get COVID, he'll pay up to 30 days of salary while you're out sick. Do not get vaccinated and get COVID, no salary while you're out.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:45 last edited by
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                                        My company thought outside the box and told everybody that if they don't provide proof of vaccination, they're fired without severance nor ability to file for unemployment.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • L Loki
                                          25 Aug 2021, 16:09

                                          @copper said in Treatments Needed:

                                          It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

                                          Turns out you are on to something. Here is Delta’s approach:

                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/delta-air-lines-unvaccinated-employees-will-face-200-fees-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine.html

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 25 Aug 2021, 16:54 last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @loki said in Treatments Needed:

                                          @copper said in Treatments Needed:

                                          It is covered by insurance. The insurers have it all figured out.

                                          Turns out you are on to something. Here is Delta’s approach:

                                          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/delta-air-lines-unvaccinated-employees-will-face-200-fees-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine.html

                                          No problem with that at all. $2400 seems a bit much, I would like to see the math, but otherwise it’s fine.

                                          The Brad

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