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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Inspired by @kluurs recommendation, I read David Sinclair's book, "Lifespan." The guy has some serious academic credentials, and his book makes some very compelling points about why and how we age.

    Now, the military is giving his work a serious look.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a36905562/us-military-testing-anti-aging-pill/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • CopperC Offline
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      In the movies those pills usually make you crazy.

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      • CopperC Copper

        In the movies those pills usually make you crazy.

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        George K
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        @copper said in The anti-aging pill:

        In the movies those pills usually make you crazy.

        Since reading Sinclair's book, I've been taking one of the supplements (not specifically) referenced in that article. I've been at it for about 8 months.

        Do I feel better? Probably not.
        Do I feel worse? Definitely not.
        Am I crazier? You guys figure it out.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          #4

          What supplement? Resveratrol?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            What supplement? Resveratrol?

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #5

            @mik said in The anti-aging pill:

            What supplement? Resveratrol?

            Two:

            NMN
            Pterostilbine (more bio-available than resveratrol, supposedly).

            https://novoslabs.com/best-anti-aging-supplements-that-harvard-scientist-david-sinclair-takes/

            ETA: my doc diagnosed me with Type II diabetes, which I very successfully brought under control with diet/exercise. I got my A1C to about 5.3 in about 6 months. I convinced him to add metformin, just in case, based on Sinclair's work.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LarryL Offline
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              Larry
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              #6

              I've been taking Damitol for about a year now....

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #7

                Waste of time. Fuckitol is the only thing that works.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • George KG George K

                  @mik said in The anti-aging pill:

                  What supplement? Resveratrol?

                  Two:

                  NMN
                  Pterostilbine (more bio-available than resveratrol, supposedly).

                  https://novoslabs.com/best-anti-aging-supplements-that-harvard-scientist-david-sinclair-takes/

                  ETA: my doc diagnosed me with Type II diabetes, which I very successfully brought under control with diet/exercise. I got my A1C to about 5.3 in about 6 months. I convinced him to add metformin, just in case, based on Sinclair's work.

                  MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #8

                  @george-k said in The anti-aging pill:

                  @mik said in The anti-aging pill:

                  What supplement? Resveratrol?

                  Two:

                  NMN
                  Pterostilbine (more bio-available than resveratrol, supposedly).

                  https://novoslabs.com/best-anti-aging-supplements-that-harvard-scientist-david-sinclair-takes/

                  ETA: my doc diagnosed me with Type II diabetes, which I very successfully brought under control with diet/exercise. I got my A1C to about 5.3 in about 6 months. I convinced him to add metformin, just in case, based on Sinclair's work.

                  I bought some based on that. My attorney says to keep a copy of this thread in case it is harmful. 😁

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • kluursK Offline
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                    kluurs
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                    #9

                    I'm using NMN, K2, D3 and B12. I'm doing some lifting in addition to running a bit more - so I'm feeling better - but not sure I can assign that to the supplements.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #10

                      I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't take a single tablet for anything.

                      Unless you count beer. The wonder-tonic.

                      I'll probably be dead soon.

                      I was only joking

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #11

                        Here's some more anti-aging advice:

                        https://futurism.com/neoscope/delay-dna-aging-castrated

                        An international team led by researchers from the University of Otago in New Zealand were able to show that castration of male sheep delays the aging of DNA, and the same principles could apply to humans as well.
                        “Both farmers and scientists have known for some time that castrated male sheep live on average much longer than their intact counterparts; however, this is the first time anyone has looked at DNA to see if it also ages slower,” said Victoria Sugrue, a researcher at the University of Otago and lead author of a paper about the research published in the journal eLife, in a statement.
                        The study is a testament to the development of tools that illuminate the rate at which DNA ages. In fact, thanks to cutting edge research, we are now able to estimate the age of humans and other creatures by looking only at their DNA.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't take a single tablet for anything.

                          Unless you count beer. The wonder-tonic.

                          I'll probably be dead soon.

                          HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          @doctor-phibes said in The anti-aging pill:

                          I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't take a single tablet for anything.

                          If not for my acid reflux pills, I could say the same.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't take a single tablet for anything.

                            Unless you count beer. The wonder-tonic.

                            I'll probably be dead soon.

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            @doctor-phibes said in The anti-aging pill:

                            I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't take a single tablet for anything.

                            I was the same until I got to age 45. My thyroid acted up, and I started supplemental thyroid. Since then, it's been about an additional pill per year, LOL.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              Here's some more anti-aging advice:

                              https://futurism.com/neoscope/delay-dna-aging-castrated

                              An international team led by researchers from the University of Otago in New Zealand were able to show that castration of male sheep delays the aging of DNA, and the same principles could apply to humans as well.
                              “Both farmers and scientists have known for some time that castrated male sheep live on average much longer than their intact counterparts; however, this is the first time anyone has looked at DNA to see if it also ages slower,” said Victoria Sugrue, a researcher at the University of Otago and lead author of a paper about the research published in the journal eLife, in a statement.
                              The study is a testament to the development of tools that illuminate the rate at which DNA ages. In fact, thanks to cutting edge research, we are now able to estimate the age of humans and other creatures by looking only at their DNA.

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
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                              @george-k said in The anti-aging pill:

                              An international team led by researchers from the University of Otago in New Zealand were able to show that castration of male sheep delays the aging of DNA, and the same principles could apply to humans as well.

                              Does a prostatectomy count the same?

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                @george-k said in The anti-aging pill:

                                An international team led by researchers from the University of Otago in New Zealand were able to show that castration of male sheep delays the aging of DNA, and the same principles could apply to humans as well.

                                Does a prostatectomy count the same?

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @renauda said in The anti-aging pill:

                                Does a prostatectomy count the same?

                                Doubtful. If the plums are still there, they're still at work.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @doctor-phibes said in The anti-aging pill:

                                  I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't take a single tablet for anything.

                                  If not for my acid reflux pills, I could say the same.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #16

                                  @horace said in The anti-aging pill:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in The anti-aging pill:

                                  I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't take a single tablet for anything.

                                  If not for my acid reflux pills, I could say the same.

                                  In our twenties we take acid. In our 50's we take acid-reflux.

                                  (Not that I ever took acid, obviously. I always was a boring old fart in that regard)

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Loki
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                                    Metformin is out Rapamycin is in.

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                                    • L Loki

                                      Metformin is out Rapamycin is in.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      @loki said in The anti-aging pill:

                                      Rapamycin

                                      “Rapamycin isn’t a panacea. Longer-lived animals might not fare as well on it as shorter-lived ones do; it’s been shown to be toxic to kidneys at high doses over extended periods of time; and it might suppress the immune system over time. That doesn’t mean TOR inhibition is a dead end, though. It might be safe in small or intermittent doses—that worked in mice to extend lifespan12 and in humans dramatically improved the immune responses of elderly people to a flu vaccine.13”

                                      Excerpt From: David A. Sinclair. “Lifespan.” Apple Books.

                                      “There are hundreds of researchers from the TOR inhibition side of the family working in universities and biotech companies to identify “rapalogs,” which are compounds that act on TOR in ways similar to rapamycin but have greater specificity and less toxicity.”

                                      Excerpt From: David A. Sinclair. “Lifespan.” Apple Books.

                                      “Like rapamycin, metformin mimics aspects of calorie restriction. But instead of inhibiting TOR, it limits the metabolic reactions in mitochondria, slowing down the process by which our cellular powerhouses convert macronutrients into energy.20 The result is the activation of AMPK, an enzyme known for its ability to respond to low energy levels and restore the function of mitochondria. It also activates SIRT1, one of my lab’s favorite proteins. Among other beneficial effects, metformin inhibits cancer cell metabolism, increases mitochondrial activity, and removes misfolded proteins.21”

                                      “A study of more than 41,000 metformin users between the ages of 68 and 81 concluded that metformin reduced the likelihood of dementia, cardiovascular disease, cancer, frailty, and depression, and not by a small amount. In one group of already frail subjects, metformin use over the course of nine years reduced dementia by 4 percent, depression by 16 percent, cardiovascular disease by 19 percent, frailty by 24 percent, and cancer by 4 percent.22 In other studies, the protective power of metformin against cancer has been far greater than that. Though not all cancers are suppressed—prostate, bladder, renal, and esophageal cancer seem recalcitrant—more than twenty-five studies have shown a powerful protective effect, sometimes as great as a 40 percent lower risk, most notably for lung, colorectal, pancreatic, and breast cancer.23”

                                      Excerpt From: David A. Sinclair. “Lifespan.” Apple Books.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @george-k said in The anti-aging pill:

                                        An international team led by researchers from the University of Otago in New Zealand were able to show that castration of male sheep delays the aging of DNA, and the same principles could apply to humans as well.

                                        Does a prostatectomy count the same?

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                                        @renauda said in The anti-aging pill:

                                        An international team led by researchers from the University of Otago in New Zealand were able to show that castration of male sheep delays the aging of DNA, and the same principles could apply to humans as well.

                                        Reminds me of an old joke.

                                        Doctor: "If you quit drinking you'll live longer."

                                        Man: "No, it'll just seem longer."

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @renauda said in The anti-aging pill:

                                          Does a prostatectomy count the same?

                                          Doubtful. If the plums are still there, they're still at work.

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                                          Renauda
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                                          @george-k said in The anti-aging pill:

                                          @renauda said in The anti-aging pill:

                                          Does a prostatectomy count the same?

                                          Doubtful. If the plums are still there, they're still at work.

                                          I reckoned as much.

                                          Elbows up!

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