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  • HoraceH Horace

    @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

    You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

    I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

    In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

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    @horace said in Confirmed?:

    In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

    This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

    "His actions saved peoples lives"

    https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @horace said in Confirmed?:

      In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

      This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

      "His actions saved peoples lives"

      https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

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      Horace
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      @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

      @horace said in Confirmed?:

      In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

      This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

      "His actions saved peoples lives"

      https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

      I didn't ask what a GOP congressman thinks. But duly noted.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

        @horace said in Confirmed?:

        In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

        This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

        "His actions saved peoples lives"

        https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

        I didn't ask what a GOP congressman thinks. But duly noted.

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        @horace

        Counterfactuals always have a degree of the unknown, but I'll take his word for it, he personally witnessed it, talked to the officer, and has no ideological interest in exaggerating what happened.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @doctor-phibes said in Confirmed?:

          @horace said in Confirmed?:

          @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

          You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

          I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

          In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

          20/20 hindsight's a wonderful thing, right?

          I only meant to pose a thought experiment for anybody who thinks the police officer was doing God's work. "Heat of the moment self-defense" works just fine for me as a justification for pulling the trigger, but to say it's God's work begs some reflection on the result, doesn't it?

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          @horace said in Confirmed?:

          @doctor-phibes said in Confirmed?:

          @horace said in Confirmed?:

          @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

          You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

          I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

          In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

          20/20 hindsight's a wonderful thing, right?

          I only meant to pose a thought experiment for anybody who thinks the police officer was doing God's work. "Heat of the moment self-defense" works just fine for me as a justification for pulling the trigger, but to say it's God's work begs some reflection on the result, doesn't it?

          God was born with 20/20 hindsight. Which if you think about it should actually make us question quite a few of His actions.

          I was only joking

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @horace

            Counterfactuals always have a degree of the unknown, but I'll take his word for it, he personally witnessed it, talked to the officer, and has no ideological interest in exaggerating what happened.

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            @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

            @horace

            Counterfactuals always have a degree of the unknown, but I'll take his word for it, he personally witnessed it, talked to the officer, and has no ideological interest in exaggerating what happened.

            And you like his conclusion. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Who is left from the right not to hate for their emotions? Trump?

              Six months after a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol on the day Congress certified the November election results, South Carolina’s U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham told reporters he hopes all the offenders are prosecuted.

              “I was there. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail,” the Seneca Republican told reporters Tuesday ahead of a meeting of the Easley Rotary Club.

              Read more here: https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article252597718.html#storylink=cpy

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              • L Loki

                Who is left from the right not to hate for their emotions? Trump?

                Six months after a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol on the day Congress certified the November election results, South Carolina’s U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham told reporters he hopes all the offenders are prosecuted.

                “I was there. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail,” the Seneca Republican told reporters Tuesday ahead of a meeting of the Easley Rotary Club.

                Read more here: https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article252597718.html#storylink=cpy

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                @loki said in Confirmed?:

                Six months after a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol on the day Congress certified the November election results, South Carolina’s U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham told reporters he hopes all the offenders are prosecuted.
                “I was there. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail,” the Seneca Republican told reporters Tuesday ahead of a meeting of the Easley Rotary Club.

                Sounds fine to me. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail. Within the law, of course.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Of course, we had the guy with the Glock not wearing his mask.

                  He at the very least, needs to be COVID shamed...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Of course, we had the guy with the Glock not wearing his mask.

                    He at the very least, needs to be COVID shamed...

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                    @jolly said in Confirmed?:

                    Of course, we had the guy with the Glock not wearing his mask.

                    He at the very least, needs to be COVID shamed...

                    He likely pulled it down to let the person know in no uncertain terms that it wasn’t Covid that was going to kill him if he didn’t stand down.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      I assume the guys with the guns are cnn employees.

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                      @copper said in Confirmed?:

                      I assume the guys with the guns are cnn employees.

                      Yeah, the AP guys are in balaclavas.

                      The Brad

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