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  • L Loki

    @horace said in Confirmed?:

    @loki said in Confirmed?:

    So o answer your question,

    you didn't.

    You said that you're responding to right-leaning press? Press that isn't being linked here or directly discussed?

    Your diatribes are clearly in response to posters here, not right-leaning press.

    Okay I can live with that. I don’t think our democracy was on the brink of collapse, I do think that what happened was not only political suicide but many well meaning people’s lives may have been ruined by really bad rhetoric. I also think that January 6 deniers actually know they are only reaching their tribe. I am of the most likely to be influenced and it’s far from working.

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    Horace
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    #16

    @loki said in Confirmed?:

    @horace said in Confirmed?:

    @loki said in Confirmed?:

    So o answer your question,

    you didn't.

    You said that you're responding to right-leaning press? Press that isn't being linked here or directly discussed?

    Your diatribes are clearly in response to posters here, not right-leaning press.

    Okay I can live with that. I don’t think our democracy was on the brink of collapse, I do think that what happened was not only political suicide but many well meaning people’s lives may have been ruined by really bad rhetoric. I also think that January 6 deniers actually know they are only reaching their tribe. I am of the most likely to be influenced and it’s far from working.

    I don't even know what Jan 6 denial means. My ears to the ground, to the extent they can be, hear Jan 6 being used on sites like NextDoor (neighborhood facebook) to shame anybody expressing an opinion that smells conservative. Jan 6 was massive catharsis for TDS sufferers, and it dealt a terrible rhetorical blow to any national political discussion designed to move centrists to the right.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #17

      You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

      I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        You've got secret service guys pointing their guns at a mob attempting to break into the Capitol.

        And people such as Tucker Carlson are essentially saying they're to blame for what happened.

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        Renauda
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        #18

        @doctor-phibes said in Confirmed?:

        You've got secret service guys pointing their guns at a mob attempting to break into the Capitol.

        Nope, just on duty and armed security doofusses doing routine action posing for photo taking tourist doofusses visiting the Capitol.

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @doctor-phibes said in Confirmed?:

          You've got secret service guys pointing their guns at a mob attempting to break into the Capitol.

          Nope, just on duty and armed security doofusses doing routine action posing for photo taking tourist doofusses visiting the Capitol.

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          jon-nyc
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          #19

          @renauda said in Confirmed?:

          doofusses

          That's actually the one thing we all agree on, including the defense lawyers of the perps themselves and the lawyers for the networks/TV personalities that frothed them up in the first place.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

            I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

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            HoraceH Online
            Horace
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            #20

            @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

            You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

            I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

            In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

              You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

              I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

              In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #21

              @horace said in Confirmed?:

              @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

              You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

              I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

              In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

              20/20 hindsight's a wonderful thing, right?

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @horace said in Confirmed?:

                @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

                I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

                In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                20/20 hindsight's a wonderful thing, right?

                HoraceH Online
                HoraceH Online
                Horace
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                #22

                @doctor-phibes said in Confirmed?:

                @horace said in Confirmed?:

                @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

                I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

                In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                20/20 hindsight's a wonderful thing, right?

                I only meant to pose a thought experiment for anybody who thinks the police officer was doing God's work. "Heat of the moment self-defense" works just fine for me as a justification for pulling the trigger, but to say it's God's work begs some reflection on the result, doesn't it?

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                  You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

                  I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

                  In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

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                  jon-nyc
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                  @horace said in Confirmed?:

                  In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                  This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

                  "His actions saved peoples lives"

                  https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @horace said in Confirmed?:

                    In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                    This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

                    "His actions saved peoples lives"

                    https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

                    HoraceH Online
                    HoraceH Online
                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

                    @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                    @horace said in Confirmed?:

                    In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                    This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

                    "His actions saved peoples lives"

                    https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

                    I didn't ask what a GOP congressman thinks. But duly noted.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                      @horace said in Confirmed?:

                      In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                      This GOP congressman who witnessed it thinks so. Go to ~1:45 in the video.

                      "His actions saved peoples lives"

                      https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/video/congressman-details-attempt-hold-off-rioters-capitol-breach-75107316

                      I didn't ask what a GOP congressman thinks. But duly noted.

                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #25

                      @horace

                      Counterfactuals always have a degree of the unknown, but I'll take his word for it, he personally witnessed it, talked to the officer, and has no ideological interest in exaggerating what happened.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @doctor-phibes said in Confirmed?:

                        @horace said in Confirmed?:

                        @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                        You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

                        I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

                        In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                        20/20 hindsight's a wonderful thing, right?

                        I only meant to pose a thought experiment for anybody who thinks the police officer was doing God's work. "Heat of the moment self-defense" works just fine for me as a justification for pulling the trigger, but to say it's God's work begs some reflection on the result, doesn't it?

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #26

                        @horace said in Confirmed?:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Confirmed?:

                        @horace said in Confirmed?:

                        @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                        You know that guy that makes those paintings of GOP presidents with Jesus's hand on their shoulder or Democratic presidents with Jesus shaming them?

                        I would love to do one in that style showing the capitol police shooter with Jefferson's hand on one shoulder, Madison's on the other, and Jesus steadying his hand.

                        In the alternate reality where that guy doesn't pull the trigger, do you suppose there would have been important differences in the outcomes of the riot?

                        20/20 hindsight's a wonderful thing, right?

                        I only meant to pose a thought experiment for anybody who thinks the police officer was doing God's work. "Heat of the moment self-defense" works just fine for me as a justification for pulling the trigger, but to say it's God's work begs some reflection on the result, doesn't it?

                        God was born with 20/20 hindsight. Which if you think about it should actually make us question quite a few of His actions.

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @horace

                          Counterfactuals always have a degree of the unknown, but I'll take his word for it, he personally witnessed it, talked to the officer, and has no ideological interest in exaggerating what happened.

                          HoraceH Online
                          HoraceH Online
                          Horace
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                          #27

                          @jon-nyc said in Confirmed?:

                          @horace

                          Counterfactuals always have a degree of the unknown, but I'll take his word for it, he personally witnessed it, talked to the officer, and has no ideological interest in exaggerating what happened.

                          And you like his conclusion. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Loki
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                            Who is left from the right not to hate for their emotions? Trump?

                            Six months after a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol on the day Congress certified the November election results, South Carolina’s U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham told reporters he hopes all the offenders are prosecuted.

                            “I was there. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail,” the Seneca Republican told reporters Tuesday ahead of a meeting of the Easley Rotary Club.

                            Read more here: https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article252597718.html#storylink=cpy

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                            • L Loki

                              Who is left from the right not to hate for their emotions? Trump?

                              Six months after a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol on the day Congress certified the November election results, South Carolina’s U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham told reporters he hopes all the offenders are prosecuted.

                              “I was there. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail,” the Seneca Republican told reporters Tuesday ahead of a meeting of the Easley Rotary Club.

                              Read more here: https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article252597718.html#storylink=cpy

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                              HoraceH Online
                              Horace
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                              #29

                              @loki said in Confirmed?:

                              Six months after a violent mob stormed the U.S. Capitol on the day Congress certified the November election results, South Carolina’s U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham told reporters he hopes all the offenders are prosecuted.
                              “I was there. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail,” the Seneca Republican told reporters Tuesday ahead of a meeting of the Easley Rotary Club.

                              Sounds fine to me. It was shameful, it was despicable, and the people who did it need to go to jail. Within the law, of course.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Jolly
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                                Of course, we had the guy with the Glock not wearing his mask.

                                He at the very least, needs to be COVID shamed...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Of course, we had the guy with the Glock not wearing his mask.

                                  He at the very least, needs to be COVID shamed...

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                                  Loki
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                                  #31

                                  @jolly said in Confirmed?:

                                  Of course, we had the guy with the Glock not wearing his mask.

                                  He at the very least, needs to be COVID shamed...

                                  He likely pulled it down to let the person know in no uncertain terms that it wasn’t Covid that was going to kill him if he didn’t stand down.

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    I assume the guys with the guns are cnn employees.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @copper said in Confirmed?:

                                    I assume the guys with the guns are cnn employees.

                                    Yeah, the AP guys are in balaclavas.

                                    The Brad

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