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I smell a scam

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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

    LarryL 1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      I was selling a mouse for chump change on behalf of my son and a guy wanted to pay me multiples over asking if I’d get a gift card too and ship both “to his cousin”. Claimed to be overseas in the military.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • KlausK Klaus

        But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

        LarryL Offline
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        Larry
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        @klaus said in I smell a scam:

        But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

        "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

        2 or 3 weeks later:
        bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
        Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

        KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
        • LarryL Larry

          @klaus said in I smell a scam:

          But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

          "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

          2 or 3 weeks later:
          bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
          Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

          KlausK Offline
          KlausK Offline
          Klaus
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          @larry said in I smell a scam:

          @klaus said in I smell a scam:

          But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

          "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

          2 or 3 weeks later:
          bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
          Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

          But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.

          L Doctor PhibesD 2 Replies Last reply
          • KlausK Klaus

            @larry said in I smell a scam:

            @klaus said in I smell a scam:

            But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

            "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

            2 or 3 weeks later:
            bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
            Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

            But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.

            L Offline
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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            @klaus said in I smell a scam:

            @larry said in I smell a scam:

            @klaus said in I smell a scam:

            But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

            "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

            2 or 3 weeks later:
            bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
            Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

            But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.

            So many people still think a cashiers check is good especially when they see it in their bank account. Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.

            Catseye3C 1 Reply Last reply
            • L Loki

              @klaus said in I smell a scam:

              @larry said in I smell a scam:

              @klaus said in I smell a scam:

              But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

              "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

              2 or 3 weeks later:
              bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
              Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

              But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.

              So many people still think a cashiers check is good especially when they see it in their bank account. Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.

              Catseye3C Offline
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              Catseye3
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              @loki said in I smell a scam:

              Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.

              They're not anymore??? 😲

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

              markM 1 Reply Last reply
              • KlausK Klaus

                @larry said in I smell a scam:

                @klaus said in I smell a scam:

                But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

                "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

                2 or 3 weeks later:
                bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
                Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

                But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor PhibesD Offline
                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                @klaus said in I smell a scam:

                @larry said in I smell a scam:

                @klaus said in I smell a scam:

                But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

                "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

                2 or 3 weeks later:
                bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
                Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

                But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.

                The thing about scams is most of the time they're preying on the gullible or the uninformed. The elderly fall for all kinds of stuff, as I'm sure some of us can attest. Not that George is elderly, of course.

                I was only joking

                jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @klaus said in I smell a scam:

                  @larry said in I smell a scam:

                  @klaus said in I smell a scam:

                  But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?

                  "You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."

                  2 or 3 weeks later:
                  bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
                  Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.

                  But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.

                  The thing about scams is most of the time they're preying on the gullible or the uninformed. The elderly fall for all kinds of stuff, as I'm sure some of us can attest. Not that George is elderly, of course.

                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @doctor-phibes said in I smell a scam:

                  Not that George is elderly, of course.

                  TNCR keeps George young.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @loki said in I smell a scam:

                    Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.

                    They're not anymore??? 😲

                    markM Offline
                    markM Offline
                    mark
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    @catseye3 said in I smell a scam:

                    @loki said in I smell a scam:

                    Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.

                    They're not anymore??? 😲

                    No. They are easily faked.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

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                        Loki
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        @george-k said in I smell a scam:

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                        The rest who didn’t pay him???

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                        • L Loki

                          @george-k said in I smell a scam:

                          IMG_0831.JPG

                          The rest who didn’t pay him???

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                          #17

                          @loki said in I smell a scam:

                          The rest who didn’t pay him???

                          Yes. If you value your life wallet, watch out for the cunning, crafty, diabolical evil Sanjeep!

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            There's a ton of videos on Youtube of people using virtual machines and bogus banking sites to hack into and generally screw with scammers. They're quite entertaining.

                            I was only joking

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              So, I'm looking to replace Mrs. George's iPhone. Searching around on FB marketplace, I came across this:

                              Screen Shot 2021-07-17 at 8.27.59 AM.png

                              $200???

                              These go for $400 and up on eBay.

                              Seller takes only cash via an app.

                              Nope, nope, nope.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • CopperC Offline
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                                Copper
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                scam

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                                • George KG Offline
                                  George KG Offline
                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

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                                  Screen Shot 2021-07-23 at 3.53.51 PM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • Catseye3C Offline
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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    Don't be so hasty. On July 22 you'd a got $2465, on July 24 you'd a got $2967. Wait until Aug 1, and you can retire!

                                    Oh, wait . . .

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      You didn’t click the links right?

                                      Question, generally speaking, not what is possible:

                                      If I were to click on a link on my iPhone the same bad things generally wouldn’t happen to phone as opposed to a PC right?

                                      I am aware of the zero click Israeli software issue.

                                      George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • L Loki

                                        You didn’t click the links right?

                                        Question, generally speaking, not what is possible:

                                        If I were to click on a link on my iPhone the same bad things generally wouldn’t happen to phone as opposed to a PC right?

                                        I am aware of the zero click Israeli software issue.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        @loki said in I smell a scam:

                                        You didn’t click the links right?

                                        Tempted to turn on a VPN and go for it.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          We have a guy supposedly sending us a cashiers check for a piano to be sent to a cargo freight line…

                                          The Brad

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