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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @jolly said in Dumbos:

    Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.

    It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time. Seems to me the stereotype needs to dissolve.

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    @aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:

    @jolly said in Dumbos:

    Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.

    It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time. Seems to me the stereotype needs to dissolve.

    Yup, plus all the tools to learn discipline, grit, resilience, individual and team accountability and leadership. Athletes can be better hires, they are pretrained, pre pressure tested and therefore reduces risk substantially.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @jolly said in Dumbos:

      Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.

      It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time. Seems to me the stereotype needs to dissolve.

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      @aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:

      It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time.

      Unless you bang your head a lot. 😖

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        @aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:

        It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time.

        Unless you bang your head a lot. 😖

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        @catseye3 said in Dumbos:

        @aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:

        It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time.

        Unless you bang your head a lot. 😖

        Well, there is that...😃

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          I do not see how a dumbo can be a successful football player. It seems they have to remember so much more -- simultaneously, yet! -- than many other professions.

          What position did you play?

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          @catseye3 said in Dumbos:

          What position did you play?

          My bet? LG…

          Ok, what about the defense?

          The Brad

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            Jolly
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            Gotta think a bit on that one (and we had a few guys play both ways)...

            DE - Contractor specializing in historic houses
            DT- Police chief
            NG - Lifer, Angola
            DT - Car dealer
            DE - PE(same guy as RT)
            WLB - Mechanical Engineer
            MLB - Haliburton (same as C)
            SLB -
            CB - Logging contractor
            SS - Station manager - Texas Gas
            WS -

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              @jolly said in Dumbos:

              NG - Lifer, Angola

              What did he do?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @jolly said in Dumbos:

                NG - Lifer, Angola

                What did he do?

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                @horace said in Dumbos:

                @jolly said in Dumbos:

                NG - Lifer, Angola

                What did he do?

                He had a string of problems after he graduated, from dope dealing to theft. He eventually killed a guy and they took a look at his record and sent him to The Farm for life.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.

                  But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.

                  I guess that's one of the reasons you see a lot of smart quarterbacks. A good QB knows what every player on offense is doing on every play. The really good ones like Brady or Rodgers can tell you what the defensive guys are going to do, too.

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                  @jolly said in Dumbos:

                  Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
                  But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.

                  Okay, yes, I can see that.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.

                    But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.

                    I guess that's one of the reasons you see a lot of smart quarterbacks. A good QB knows what every player on offense is doing on every play. The really good ones like Brady or Rodgers can tell you what the defensive guys are going to do, too.

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                    @jolly said in Dumbos:

                    Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.

                    But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.

                    There are plenty of QB’s that make it to the pros but are dumb as stumps. A few get by on their athletic prowess for a year or two, but the game catches up to them.

                    To me, the bigger problem is the smart player that needs a couple years to mature as a backup, but the fan base loses interest if it’s not immediate… Bud Dupree is a perfect example. So is Mason Rudolph…

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @jolly said in Dumbos:

                      Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.

                      But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.

                      There are plenty of QB’s that make it to the pros but are dumb as stumps. A few get by on their athletic prowess for a year or two, but the game catches up to them.

                      To me, the bigger problem is the smart player that needs a couple years to mature as a backup, but the fan base loses interest if it’s not immediate… Bud Dupree is a perfect example. So is Mason Rudolph…

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                      @lufins-dad said in Dumbos:

                      @jolly said in Dumbos:

                      Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.

                      But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.

                      There are plenty of QB’s that make it to the pros but are dumb as stumps. A few get by on their athletic prowess for a year or two, but the game catches up to them.

                      To me, the bigger problem is the smart player that needs a couple years to mature as a backup, but the fan base loses interest if it’s not immediate… Bud Dupree is a perfect example. So is Mason Rudolph…

                      Remember Dupree well. A lot of the Saints fans really wanted him in that draft. Instead, we got Stephone Anthony.

                      Now, Anthony is a great example of a player with great physical talent, but lack of intelligence. He simply cannot read offensive formations fast enough to use his keys, especially with motion invokved.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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