Dumbos
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wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 19:00 last edited by
Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.
Therefore, the offense, 1977...
SE - High school principal
LT - Some oilfield, mostly a n'eer-do-well
LG - Laboratory manager
C - Property Acquisition, Haliburton. Don't know his actual job title, but he had a dozen suits under him.
RG - Station Foreman, TC Energy
RT - (went on to play for LSU) Petroleum Engineer
TE - HVAC Contractor
SE - Civil EngineerQB - Wildlife Biologist
RB - General Contractor
RB - GeologistFor the most part, I guess we did okay...
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wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 19:04 last edited by
I do not see how a dumbo can be a successful football player. It seems they have to remember so much more -- simultaneously, yet! -- than many other professions.
What position did you play?
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wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 19:18 last edited by
Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.
I guess that's one of the reasons you see a lot of smart quarterbacks. A good QB knows what every player on offense is doing on every play. The really good ones like Brady or Rodgers can tell you what the defensive guys are going to do, too.
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Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.
I guess that's one of the reasons you see a lot of smart quarterbacks. A good QB knows what every player on offense is doing on every play. The really good ones like Brady or Rodgers can tell you what the defensive guys are going to do, too.
wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 19:29 last edited by Catseye3 7 Apr 2021, 19:32I guess that's one of the reasons you see a lot of smart quarterbacks. A good QB knows what every player on offense is doing on every play. The really good ones like Brady or Rodgers can tell you what the defensive guys are going to do, too.
I redd a story . . . can't remember the game, maybe the Bucs Superbowl. A couple of nights before, Brady met individually with every team member and showed him film of their opponents' likely style of play, their tells and so on, to brief his guy on what to look for and how best to counter what the other guy would do.
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Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.
Therefore, the offense, 1977...
SE - High school principal
LT - Some oilfield, mostly a n'eer-do-well
LG - Laboratory manager
C - Property Acquisition, Haliburton. Don't know his actual job title, but he had a dozen suits under him.
RG - Station Foreman, TC Energy
RT - (went on to play for LSU) Petroleum Engineer
TE - HVAC Contractor
SE - Civil EngineerQB - Wildlife Biologist
RB - General Contractor
RB - GeologistFor the most part, I guess we did okay...
wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 19:46 last edited byJust thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.
It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time. Seems to me the stereotype needs to dissolve.
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Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.
It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time. Seems to me the stereotype needs to dissolve.
wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 19:57 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:
Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.
It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time. Seems to me the stereotype needs to dissolve.
Yup, plus all the tools to learn discipline, grit, resilience, individual and team accountability and leadership. Athletes can be better hires, they are pretrained, pre pressure tested and therefore reduces risk substantially.
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Just thinking back many moons ago and pondering on the stereotypes of dumb jocks or dumb football players. I thought about the guys I played with in high school, and what careers they had, as we've retired or soon will be.
It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time. Seems to me the stereotype needs to dissolve.
wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 20:10 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:
It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time.
Unless you bang your head a lot.
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@aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:
It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time.
Unless you bang your head a lot.
wrote on 4 Jul 2021, 20:22 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Dumbos:
It's already been proven that strenuous exercise has a direct and positive effect on maintaining fluid intelligence over time.
Unless you bang your head a lot.
Well, there is that...
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I do not see how a dumbo can be a successful football player. It seems they have to remember so much more -- simultaneously, yet! -- than many other professions.
What position did you play?
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Gotta think a bit on that one (and we had a few guys play both ways)...
DE - Contractor specializing in historic houses
DT- Police chief
NG - Lifer, Angola
DT - Car dealer
DE - PE(same guy as RT)
WLB - Mechanical Engineer
MLB - Haliburton (same as C)
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CB - Logging contractor
SS - Station manager - Texas Gas
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wrote on 5 Jul 2021, 21:57 last edited by
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Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.
I guess that's one of the reasons you see a lot of smart quarterbacks. A good QB knows what every player on offense is doing on every play. The really good ones like Brady or Rodgers can tell you what the defensive guys are going to do, too.
wrote on 6 Jul 2021, 01:03 last edited byOh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.Okay, yes, I can see that.
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Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.
I guess that's one of the reasons you see a lot of smart quarterbacks. A good QB knows what every player on offense is doing on every play. The really good ones like Brady or Rodgers can tell you what the defensive guys are going to do, too.
wrote on 6 Jul 2021, 04:23 last edited byOh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.
There are plenty of QB’s that make it to the pros but are dumb as stumps. A few get by on their athletic prowess for a year or two, but the game catches up to them.
To me, the bigger problem is the smart player that needs a couple years to mature as a backup, but the fan base loses interest if it’s not immediate… Bud Dupree is a perfect example. So is Mason Rudolph…
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Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.
There are plenty of QB’s that make it to the pros but are dumb as stumps. A few get by on their athletic prowess for a year or two, but the game catches up to them.
To me, the bigger problem is the smart player that needs a couple years to mature as a backup, but the fan base loses interest if it’s not immediate… Bud Dupree is a perfect example. So is Mason Rudolph…
wrote on 6 Jul 2021, 12:39 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Dumbos:
Oh, you can be an idiot and play ball. Pretty well, if you have innate athletic ability.
But the guys who make it to the pros, even though they may not be rocket scientists, cannot be brain dead. All they know may be football, but it's going to be in-depth knowledge, at least everything pertaining to their position.
There are plenty of QB’s that make it to the pros but are dumb as stumps. A few get by on their athletic prowess for a year or two, but the game catches up to them.
To me, the bigger problem is the smart player that needs a couple years to mature as a backup, but the fan base loses interest if it’s not immediate… Bud Dupree is a perfect example. So is Mason Rudolph…
Remember Dupree well. A lot of the Saints fans really wanted him in that draft. Instead, we got Stephone Anthony.
Now, Anthony is a great example of a player with great physical talent, but lack of intelligence. He simply cannot read offensive formations fast enough to use his keys, especially with motion invokved.