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What are you playing now?

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  • kluursK Offline
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    The first movement of D664 is wonderful, and Richter has a decent tempo for it. That's a great choice.

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    • kluursK kluurs

      The first movement of D664 is wonderful, and Richter has a decent tempo for it. That's a great choice.

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      @kluurs said in What are you playing now?:

      Richter has a decent tempo for it

      Yes, in fact, listening to many recordings of it, I find that I'm being too aggressive with tempo. I need to slow it down.

      Also, struggling with measure 33 - the best way to finger it. Doing it all in the left hand is, for me, awkward.

      I'm thinking play the 2nd three notes of the first triplet with the right hand, the 2nd triplet with the left, etc., ending with left hand 3rd finger on the last note.

      Screenshot 2023-07-05 at 7.03.29 AM.png

      Screenshot 2023-07-05 at 7.03.29 AM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        The first movement of D664 is wonderful, and Richter has a decent tempo for it. That's a great choice.

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        @kluurs said in What are you playing now?:

        The first movement of D664 is wonderful, and Richter has a decent tempo for it. That's a great choice.

        90% done with it (1st movement) - I can do the octave runs about...90% of the time.

        3rd movement is...tricky.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • kluursK Offline
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          #52

          George - I was at a masterclass on D664 with Adele Marcus. I taped it - but sadly - it's difficult to capture because Marcus was not separately miked. Adle Marcus was one of the more famous teachers at Juilliard - taught Stephen Hough, Byron Janis, Tzimon Barto, and several other well known pianists. She was a student of both Josef and Rosina Lhevinne. It was recorded about 40 years ago.

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            Finished the c# minor fugue from WTC1. My teacher says my interpretation reminds him of Richter's, which I must say is a VERY high compliment to Richter. Now I'm working on the prelude, and the famous Brahms 118.2.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              Finished the c# minor fugue from WTC1. My teacher says my interpretation reminds him of Richter's, which I must say is a VERY high compliment to Richter. Now I'm working on the prelude, and the famous Brahms 118.2.

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              @Horace said in What are you playing now?:

              the famous Brahms 118.2.

              That's fun to play. I always found the polyrhythm section a bit of a challenge - I do with all polyrhythms.

              You might find this interesting:

              Link to video

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @Horace said in What are you playing now?:

                the famous Brahms 118.2.

                That's fun to play. I always found the polyrhythm section a bit of a challenge - I do with all polyrhythms.

                You might find this interesting:

                Link to video

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                Horace
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                #55

                @George-K said in What are you playing now?:

                @Horace said in What are you playing now?:

                the famous Brahms 118.2.

                That's fun to play. I always found the polyrhythm section a bit of a challenge - I do with all polyrhythms.

                You might find this interesting:

                Link to video

                Watched that a few days ago, thanks George. I love those 3 vs 2s. Can't sight read them musically, but once they're up to speed they are marvelous.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @George-K said in What are you playing now?:

                  @Horace said in What are you playing now?:

                  the famous Brahms 118.2.

                  That's fun to play. I always found the polyrhythm section a bit of a challenge - I do with all polyrhythms.

                  You might find this interesting:

                  Link to video

                  Watched that a few days ago, thanks George. I love those 3 vs 2s. Can't sight read them musically, but once they're up to speed they are marvelous.

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                  @Horace said in What are you playing now?:

                  Can't sight read them musically, but once they're up to speed they are marvelous.

                  There's a passage in the Schubert D960 that always vexed me...

                  Screenshot 2023-09-16 at 11.31.46 AM.png

                  But in the D664 I never had a problem.

                  Screenshot 2023-09-16 at 11.30.44 AM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #57

                    Sadly nothing. I haven't sat down all summer. Sigh.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      I just listened to D664, it's beautiful. I wonder if I'll ever play another classical sonata. They are so much work.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I just listened to D664, it's beautiful. I wonder if I'll ever play another classical sonata. They are so much work.

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                        @Horace the first two movements aren’t all that difficult. For me, the hardest part was doing the octaves in the development section.

                        The third movement, on the other hand, is just ridiculous.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          I'm working on Bach's Art of Fugue, First Contrapunctus. The first few lines came along easily enough, and I thought "ah, I can hack this out in a couple of weeks." Then I got into the bramble of the work - and I've worked a couple of weeks just sorting through fingering for a few lines. It's coming along, but while a short piece, it's gonna be a slower slog than I imagined.

                          Link to video

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                            I've been hacking away at old (to me) stuff, but at least pretty regularly, when I'm not traveling. I need to adopt something meaty.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              I've put the Schubert D664 aside. I have the first two movements, pretty much, under my fingers. The third movement is a beast, and, frankly, it's just not fun to learn.

                              If it's not fun, screw it.

                              I suggested a couple of things to my teacher - Pictures at an Exhibition and the Mendelssohn Variations "Serious". There are parts of Pictures (the last few bars of Gnomus) that are just, for me, impossible, so, again, if it's not fun.

                              Ditto the Variations. Variation #4 is something I could probably learn - after a couple of months. Not worth the aggravation.

                              So, something more up to my level.

                              The Bach Partita #1 in Bb. I was wondering about the ornamenation in another thread. I've always loved this piece, and it's within my reach. The prelude is about 60% there.

                              I love Bach (not @bachophile of course).

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Glenn working through a bit of the 2nd partita.

                                Link to video

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                                • George KG George K

                                  I've put the Schubert D664 aside. I have the first two movements, pretty much, under my fingers. The third movement is a beast, and, frankly, it's just not fun to learn.

                                  If it's not fun, screw it.

                                  I suggested a couple of things to my teacher - Pictures at an Exhibition and the Mendelssohn Variations "Serious". There are parts of Pictures (the last few bars of Gnomus) that are just, for me, impossible, so, again, if it's not fun.

                                  Ditto the Variations. Variation #4 is something I could probably learn - after a couple of months. Not worth the aggravation.

                                  So, something more up to my level.

                                  The Bach Partita #1 in Bb. I was wondering about the ornamenation in another thread. I've always loved this piece, and it's within my reach. The prelude is about 60% there.

                                  I love Bach (not @bachophile of course).

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                                  @George-K said in What are you playing now?:

                                  I love Bach (not @bachophile of course).

                                  I said it before. Someone gots to hate me

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    I've put the Schubert D664 aside. I have the first two movements, pretty much, under my fingers. The third movement is a beast, and, frankly, it's just not fun to learn.

                                    If it's not fun, screw it.

                                    I suggested a couple of things to my teacher - Pictures at an Exhibition and the Mendelssohn Variations "Serious". There are parts of Pictures (the last few bars of Gnomus) that are just, for me, impossible, so, again, if it's not fun.

                                    Ditto the Variations. Variation #4 is something I could probably learn - after a couple of months. Not worth the aggravation.

                                    So, something more up to my level.

                                    The Bach Partita #1 in Bb. I was wondering about the ornamenation in another thread. I've always loved this piece, and it's within my reach. The prelude is about 60% there.

                                    I love Bach (not @bachophile of course).

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                                    @George-K said in What are you playing now?:

                                    The Bach Partita #1 in Bb. I was wondering about the ornamenation in another thread. I've always loved this piece, and it's within my reach.

                                    Making progress. Prelude is mostly under my fingers - I can get through it without breakdown most of the time.

                                    The Allemande is tricky, and my Henle edition has some atrocious fingering, making it all that more difficult - it’s an older (1970s) version. The A part is about 80% there, and I’ve started on the B section. A bit trickier than the A (especially at the end), but it’ll get there.

                                    I love Bach’s music. He was such a wonderful craftsman.

                                    ETA: The ornamentation in the prelude? I’ve decided to agree with what @Axtremus said - it’s supposed to be improvisational so I’m doing a turn, rather than a trill as indicated in the score. It fits my fingers niceley and allows me to keep the tempo, timing and rhythm going.

                                    As Duke Ellington said, “If it sounds good, it is good.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      I need to engage a teacher again just to keep me focused.

                                      I’m bouncing around between Schubert, Debussy, and Rachmaninoff.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        I need to engage a teacher again just to keep me focused.

                                        I’m bouncing around between Schubert, Debussy, and Rachmaninoff.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in What are you playing now?:

                                        I need to engage a teacher again just to keep me focused.

                                        It makes all the difference.

                                        THe teacher I have now is the same one as I had when I returned to the piano (gasp) 19 years ago.

                                        She is great for motivation, encouragement and engagement. Also, we interact, via text, when I encounter a problem.

                                        I lesson every other week.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          I need to engage a teacher again just to keep me focused.

                                          I’m bouncing around between Schubert, Debussy, and Rachmaninoff.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in What are you playing now?:

                                          I’m bouncing around between Schubert, Debussy, and Rachmaninoff.

                                          Specifics?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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