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    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/07/lorraine-lewandrowski/whole-milk-prohibited-being-offered-new-york-schoo/

    In 2006, New York City school districts underwent a far-reaching rebranding of their student lunch programs, focusing on improving the meals’ nutritional values. As a result, whole milk was removed and ultimately banned by the city's education board.

    The options left on the menu were 1% milk, skim, and skim chocolate milk.

    Then, in 2010, the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act was passed by Congress. The law altered school lunch programs nationally by banning whole milk, 2% white milk, 2% flavored milk, and 1% flavored milk. This left students’ milk options to flavored skim, white skim, or white 1%.

    During the 2017-18 school year the regulations were loosened and Congress allowed schools to offer 1% flavored milk with proof of operational hardship. By 2018-19, schools were allowed to offer the 1% flavored milk without citing an operational concern, according to the USDA. But whole milk remains unavailable.

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      Yeah, everybody knows that whole milk is at the root of the nation's obesity problem.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        Yeah, everybody knows that whole milk is at the root of the nation's obesity problem.

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        @doctor-phibes said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

        Yeah, everybody knows that whole milk is at the root of the nation's obesity problem.

        Maybe the opposite?

        https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/well/whole-milk-may-be-better-when-it-comes-to-childrens-weight.html

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          Whether milk is good for us or not is one of the key scientific conundrums of the last 30 years.

          I was only joking

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          • George KG George K

            https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/07/lorraine-lewandrowski/whole-milk-prohibited-being-offered-new-york-schoo/

            In 2006, New York City school districts underwent a far-reaching rebranding of their student lunch programs, focusing on improving the meals’ nutritional values. As a result, whole milk was removed and ultimately banned by the city's education board.

            The options left on the menu were 1% milk, skim, and skim chocolate milk.

            Then, in 2010, the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act was passed by Congress. The law altered school lunch programs nationally by banning whole milk, 2% white milk, 2% flavored milk, and 1% flavored milk. This left students’ milk options to flavored skim, white skim, or white 1%.

            During the 2017-18 school year the regulations were loosened and Congress allowed schools to offer 1% flavored milk with proof of operational hardship. By 2018-19, schools were allowed to offer the 1% flavored milk without citing an operational concern, according to the USDA. But whole milk remains unavailable.

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            @george-k said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

            1% flavored milk with proof of operational hardship.

            Whut?

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              I’m surprised white milk isn’t banned

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                Idiots

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                • 89th8 89th

                  I’m surprised white milk isn’t banned

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                  @89th said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                  I’m surprised white milk isn’t banned

                  You probably come at this from a "critical race" perspective. Keep in mind that even white milk can come from cows of colors. So white milk gets a pass.

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                    @george-k said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                    1% flavored milk with proof of operational hardship.

                    Whut?

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                    @catseye3 said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                    @george-k said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                    1% flavored milk with proof of operational hardship.

                    Whut?

                    The cow's ancestors need to have been imported into the country to provide slave-milk, having been ripped from their idyllic cow life of prairie frolicking in their original home country.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Whether milk is good for us or not is one of the key scientific conundrums of the last 30 years.

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                      @doctor-phibes said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                      Whether milk is good for us or not is one of the key scientific conundrums of the last 30 years.

                      Especially since all the other health and lifestyle issues have been satisfactorily addressed.

                      This is all about the milk lobby in NY.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @89th said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                        I’m surprised white milk isn’t banned

                        You probably come at this from a "critical race" perspective. Keep in mind that even white milk can come from cows of colors. So white milk gets a pass.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        @axtremus said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                        @89th said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                        I’m surprised white milk isn’t banned

                        You probably come at this from a "critical race" perspective. Keep in mind that even white milk can come from cows of colors. So white milk gets a pass.

                        I thought chocolate milk came from brown cows.

                        I was only joking

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                          A lot of athletes drink chocolate milk as a recovery drink. Whole milk is generally better than the lower fat versions - even though higher in fat and calories, it seems to be a healthier alternative to skim. It all depends on who one listens to for counsel on nutrition. The American Heart Association is not a credible source of information.

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                            A lot of athletes drink chocolate milk as a recovery drink. Whole milk is generally better than the lower fat versions - even though higher in fat and calories, it seems to be a healthier alternative to skim. It all depends on who one listens to for counsel on nutrition. The American Heart Association is not a credible source of information.

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                            @kluurs said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                            The American Heart Association is not a credible source of information.

                            Say on, brother.

                            Following on this thread, I found a site that observed that the estrogen, which is fat soluble, in a serving of milk makes for a very tiny fraction of the estrogen produced by our bodies, even men's bodies. For women it's so tiny as to be almost meaningless.

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                              A lot of athletes drink chocolate milk as a recovery drink. Whole milk is generally better than the lower fat versions - even though higher in fat and calories, it seems to be a healthier alternative to skim. It all depends on who one listens to for counsel on nutrition. The American Heart Association is not a credible source of information.

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                              @kluurs said in Whole milk banned in NY schools:

                              A lot of athletes drink chocolate milk as a recovery drink. Whole milk is generally better than the lower fat versions - even though higher in fat and calories, it seems to be a healthier alternative to skim.

                              Whilst I'm a long way from being an athlete, I do sometimes drink whole-fat chocolate milk after a long bike ride - it's bloody wonderful.

                              Somewhat less healthily, I usually drink a large Red Bull just before the ride. I don't suppose those miserable buggers in NY would approve of that, either.

                              I was only joking

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                                xenon
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                                Dumb. I haven't bought skim milk in years.

                                Last time was in the 90's I think when fat was bad and sugar was fine.

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