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6.6 million jobless claims.

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  • ImprovisoI Offline
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    Improviso
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    @Mik said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:

    The thing I hated was lazy-ass programmers who would force an abend when something went wrong but DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT WENT WRONG, WHAT RECORD or anything else that might help you figure it out without reading a dump. If I did it I gave as much info as I could right there in the SYSOUT including restart instructions either in the code or the JCL. You would have liked working with me.

    Sounds like I would have.

    Wrote cobol on a IBM 370 for years. Then an IBM 8100 system. Some of that code ran for over 15 years before they retired the system.

    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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    • ImprovisoI Improviso

      @Mik said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:

      The thing I hated was lazy-ass programmers who would force an abend when something went wrong but DIDN'T TELL YOU WHAT WENT WRONG, WHAT RECORD or anything else that might help you figure it out without reading a dump. If I did it I gave as much info as I could right there in the SYSOUT including restart instructions either in the code or the JCL. You would have liked working with me.

      Sounds like I would have.

      Wrote cobol on a IBM 370 for years. Then an IBM 8100 system. Some of that code ran for over 15 years before they retired the system.

      markM Offline
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      #29

      @Improviso said in 6.6 million jobless claims.> Wrote cobol on a IBM 370 for years. Then an IBM 8100 system. Some of that code ran for over 15 years before they retired the system.

      I have a system that is still running at a dental lab that I wrote in 1985. He finally stopped upgrading the underlying runtime system about 5 years ago. He said he was retiring. He is still working and I did some enhancements for him to start a new process just last December.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #30

        Sometimes, if it works, leave it alone. We were running the old roll and scroll Sunquest as late as 2014 and it did everything we needed.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          IT systems are tools. Nothing more. If the tool does what you need done and is on a maintainable platform it's good.

          I have seen a lot of businesses that worked for technology rather than technology working for them. You see a LOT of that in healthcare. That's the wrong way to go.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • markM mark

            @Improviso said in 6.6 million jobless claims.> Wrote cobol on a IBM 370 for years. Then an IBM 8100 system. Some of that code ran for over 15 years before they retired the system.

            I have a system that is still running at a dental lab that I wrote in 1985. He finally stopped upgrading the underlying runtime system about 5 years ago. He said he was retiring. He is still working and I did some enhancements for him to start a new process just last December.

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            @mark said in 6.6 million jobless claims.:

            @Improviso said in 6.6 million jobless claims.> Wrote cobol on a IBM 370 for years. Then an IBM 8100 system. Some of that code ran for over 15 years before they retired the system.

            I have a system that is still running at a dental lab that I wrote in 1985. He finally stopped upgrading the underlying runtime system about 5 years ago. He said he was retiring. He is still working and I did some enhancements for him to start a new process just last December.

            Nice... good code just runs and runs.

            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #33

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
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                #34

                This is not meant to be a political statement at all, but I wonder how much credit Trump will claim in the coming months when folks "get off unemployment".

                It'll be something like "No president has ever helped so many people find employment again in the history of this country, some say in the history of the world."

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
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                  #35

                  It sounds like you are tired of winning.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #36

                    3.2 million more

                    Unemployment rolls continued to swell in the U.S. last week, though jobless claims hit their lowest level since the economy went into lockdown made to battle the coronavirus pandemic.

                    First-time filings for unemployment insurance hit 3.17 million last week, bringing the total to 33.5 million over the past seven weeks, the Labor Department reported Thursday. The total was slightly higher than the 3.05 million expected by economists surveyed by Dow Jones and below the previous week’s 3.846 million, which was revised up by 7,000.

                    The latest jobless claims numbers come a day before the Labor Department releases its nonfarm payrolls report for April. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones expect a plunge of 21.5 million, easily the worst month in U.S. history, with the unemployment rate surging to 16%.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      Copper
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                      #37

                      It's the economy

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #38

                        I wonder if we'll hit 50 million on unemployment.

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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #39

                          The effective reproductive rate of unemployment claims is less than one.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
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                            It's herd immunity. Once you've lost your job you can't lose it again.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #41

                              That has yet to be proven, I read somewhere that some employees in South Korea got furloughed twice.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                Copper
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                                This is making the rounds on pilot sites

                                I wonder if it is real, maybe it is

                                https://ukaviation.news/qatar-airways-you-are-no-longer-required-heres-a-130000-bill/

                                @ukaviation said: >

                                Qatar Airways: You are no longer required, here’s a £130,000 bill

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                                • markM Offline
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                                  mark
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                                  #43

                                  That cannot be real. If it is, then, fuck them!

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                                    MainerMikeBrown
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                                    #44

                                    Reading about current jobless claims makes me think about the bad economy overall.

                                    And I hate to read about people losing their livelihood.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #45

                                      2.1 million this week:

                                      And here's an interesting comment:

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • 89th8 Offline
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                                        89th
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                                        And in Q3 when tens of millions of people are "hired", Trump will claim it as the best economy EVAH

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                                          Loki
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                                          The white collar job layoffs are coming and furloughs are turning into layoffs.

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