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How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    We have CIA employees with diagnosed mental problems? Swell.

    I have never understood why some people have to wear their 'I'm OK' on their sleeve and beat their chest about it, demanding that everyone support that. If you're OK you don't need anyone to tell you that. If you're not OK, same thing. She seems to me to be a product of participation award thinking.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      We have CIA employees with diagnosed mental problems? Swell.

      I have never understood why some people have to wear their 'I'm OK' on their sleeve and beat their chest about it, demanding that everyone support that. If you're OK you don't need anyone to tell you that. If you're not OK, same thing. She seems to me to be a product of participation award thinking.

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      @mik said in How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?:

      We have CIA employees with diagnosed mental problems? Swell.

      I have never understood why some people have to wear their 'I'm OK' on their sleeve and beat their chest about it, demanding that everyone support that. If you're OK you don't need anyone to tell you that. If you're not OK, same thing. She seems to me to be a product of participation award thinking.

      On the other hand we need to de-stigmatize behavioral health challenges .

      Interestingly only about 3% of the US public has been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder so your comment makes sense for a CIA type position.

      Until now I did not know that companies included mental health issues as part of their inclusion drive. I guess they are saying we will test you to see if it is disqualifying don’t think we will exclude you for that alone.

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      • MikM Mik

        We have CIA employees with diagnosed mental problems? Swell.

        I have never understood why some people have to wear their 'I'm OK' on their sleeve and beat their chest about it, demanding that everyone support that. If you're OK you don't need anyone to tell you that. If you're not OK, same thing. She seems to me to be a product of participation award thinking.

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        @mik said in How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?:

        We have CIA employees with diagnosed mental problems? Swell.

        I have never understood why some people have to wear their 'I'm OK' on their sleeve and beat their chest about it, demanding that everyone support that. If you're OK you don't need anyone to tell you that. If you're not OK, same thing. She seems to me to be a product of participation award thinking.

        I've heard tell of a woman whose job demanded a pretty darn high security clearance. Well, she started flipping the fuck out at meetings, throwing papers, upturning chairs, etc. She was out of control.

        The problem is, at that level, it's not easy to replace someone like that. The security screenings alone take several, several months. So their solution instead was to give her every Friday off. Mental health leave.

        I know someone else who's pretty severely bipolar and refuses to take his meds because he'd then have to explain why he was taking them, acknowledge he has bipolar disorder, and lose his job. So instead, he simply runs around ruining family ties and close relationships.

        This area, where I live and work, is full of fucking crazy people.

        While we're on the topic: here's a fun thought experiment. There's a lot of shit you can't be associated with if you have a decently high clearance. Not that you can't do it, but that you can't even be in the same room with or be on familiar terms with someone who does that kind of stuff. Your job absolutely determines how you live and who you're friends with.

        What do you think these people do get involved with to blow off steam?

        Crazy, crazy fucking people.

        Please love yourself.

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          I think what I was more focusing on is this desperate need for external validation.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            I think what I was more focusing on is this desperate need for external validation.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            @mik said in How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?:

            I think what I was more focusing on is this desperate need for external validation.

            Oh no I get it, and you have a very valid point. I definitely went in a different direction. 😆

            I'm just saying that living around this area for so long, having so many friends and acquaintances in that kind of industry, I am not at all endeared to that profession and think the lot of them are fucking nuts. Not in a cool "Avengers" nuts sort of way, I mean straightup Michael Douglas in Falling Down. You literally couldn't pay me to get involved.

            Please love yourself.

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              I get it. All the nuts do not, in fact, roll to California. I blame the continental divide.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Being diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder is mostly a matter of wanting to be diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Being diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder is mostly a matter of wanting to be diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @horace said in How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?:

                  Being diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder is mostly a matter of wanting to be diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder.

                  My thought when watching that government-sponsored virtue-signal:

                  You know what? I'm not at all cisgendered. Because of what it actually means. Folks who are just going out there living their lives aren't "cisgendered." You're never, ever, going to hear the term "cisgendered" being self-applied to vinyl siding installers in Ohio or from a schoolteacher in Indiana thinking about trading in his car this weekend. Every now and again, you'll hear the term from folks who have a legitimate reason to take gender and sexuality seriously. But the vast majority of the time, it has nothing at all to do with defining gender and everything to do with demonstrating wokespeak.

                  So no I'm not cisgendered.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    @horace said in How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?:

                    Being diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder is mostly a matter of wanting to be diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder.

                    My thought when watching that government-sponsored virtue-signal:

                    You know what? I'm not at all cisgendered. Because of what it actually means. Folks who are just going out there living their lives aren't "cisgendered." You're never, ever, going to hear the term "cisgendered" being self-applied to vinyl siding installers in Ohio or from a schoolteacher in Indiana thinking about trading in his car this weekend. Every now and again, you'll hear the term from folks who have a legitimate reason to take gender and sexuality seriously. But the vast majority of the time, it has nothing at all to do with defining gender and everything to do with demonstrating wokespeak.

                    So no I'm not cisgendered.

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                    @aqua-letifer said in How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?:

                    @horace said in How could you NOT want to work for this outfit?:

                    Being diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder is mostly a matter of wanting to be diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder.

                    My thought when watching that government-sponsored virtue-signal:

                    You know what? I'm not at all cisgendered. Because of what it actually means. Folks who are just going out there living their lives aren't "cisgendered." You're never, ever, going to hear the term "cisgendered" being self-applied to vinyl siding installers in Ohio or from a schoolteacher in Indiana thinking about trading in his car this weekend. Every now and again, you'll hear the term from folks who have a legitimate reason to take gender and sexuality seriously. But the vast majority of the time, it has nothing at all to do with defining gender and everything to do with demonstrating wokespeak.

                    So no I'm not cisgendered.

                    Yes I was particularly amused by her statement that she isn't just checking a bunch of boxes when she lists her identity characteristics that make her intersectional. That is, of course, exactly what she's doing. And she's no more complex a person than the average person who doesn't feel the need to be outspoken about their own intersectional bona fides, be they what they may.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      https://news.yahoo.com/cia-mocked-sides-over-woke-074715716.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb&tsrc=fb

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Can you imagine how fast we’d lose WWII if it happened today?

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                          Just keep her away from me

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