Felons and Guns
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I think there should be some sort of definition of what sort of crime would make a person a bad bet to own a firearm. Felony assault, Burglary. Robbery. Any violent crime or actual criminal enterprise. Lying on your tax return (like that's rare!) or bootlegging songs would not meet that definition.
On the other hand, the only people this would affect is the convicted who intend to be law abiding henceforth. The people we are worried about wouldn't hesitate to get themselves a gun.
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@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
I was only joking
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@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
@doctor-phibes and in some states they can't vote.
Voting and firearms are constitutionally protected, as is free speech, right of assembly, etc etc.
Though sad, the items you mention are not to be found in the constitution and perhaps other remedies can be offered for those.
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@doctor-phibes and in some states they can't vote.
Voting and firearms are constitutionally protected, as is free speech, right of assembly, etc etc.
Though sad, the items you mention are not to be found in the constitution and perhaps other remedies can be offered for those.
@george-k said in Felons and Guns:
Though sad, the items you mention are not to be found in the constitution and perhaps other remedies can be offered for those
There are few problems that can't be solved by firearms.
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@doctor-phibes and in some states they can't vote.
Voting and firearms are constitutionally protected, as is free speech, right of assembly, etc etc.
Though sad, the items you mention are not to be found in the constitution and perhaps other remedies can be offered for those.
@george-k said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes and in some states they can't vote.
That, in my less than humble opinion, is flat-out wrong.
I was only joking
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@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
I consider the right to self-defense a pretty big deal. That God-given and Constitutional right must be balanced against the crime that the person has committed and his proclivity to commit a crime of violence. When you take those rights away, you are walking over pretty sacrosanct ground.
That's a BFD.
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@george-k said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes and in some states they can't vote.
That, in my less than humble opinion, is flat-out wrong.
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
@george-k said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes and in some states they can't vote.
That, in my less than humble opinion, is flat-out wrong.
And voting is more important than self-defense?
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@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
I consider the right to self-defense a pretty big deal. That God-given and Constitutional right must be balanced against the crime that the person has committed and his proclivity to commit a crime of violence. When you take those rights away, you are walking over pretty sacrosanct ground.
That's a BFD.
@jolly said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
I consider the right to self-defense a pretty big deal. That God-given and Constitutional right must be balanced against the crime that the person has committed and his proclivity to commit a crime of violence. When you take those rights away, you are walking over pretty sacrosanct ground.
That's a BFD.
I agree it should be heard by the SCOTUS. My opinions regarding guns are very different from yours.
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@jolly said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
I consider the right to self-defense a pretty big deal. That God-given and Constitutional right must be balanced against the crime that the person has committed and his proclivity to commit a crime of violence. When you take those rights away, you are walking over pretty sacrosanct ground.
That's a BFD.
I agree it should be heard by the SCOTUS. My opinions regarding guns are very different from yours.
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
@jolly said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
@mik said in Felons and Guns:
@doctor-phibes said in Felons and Guns:
How oddly American that the thing people worry about for somebody getting convicted of a felony is that they won't be able to own guns any more
What you are saying is it's oddly American to hold the government to the Constitution. I would disagree,
No, what I'm saying is it's odd to focus on guns.
Of all the problems that former felons have to contend with, this is a peculiar thing to worry about.
Sure, they can't get decent employment, or decent housing, they're going to struggle with potential drug problems, etc. etc. . But what we really need to ensure is that they can legally buy a firearm.
As I believe I've said before, when people want to get focused on stupid shit, one of the first things they frequently do is mention the Constitution.
I consider the right to self-defense a pretty big deal. That God-given and Constitutional right must be balanced against the crime that the person has committed and his proclivity to commit a crime of violence. When you take those rights away, you are walking over pretty sacrosanct ground.
That's a BFD.
I agree it should be heard by the SCOTUS. My opinions regarding guns are very different from yours.
Probably because you don't shoot worth a damn.
