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  • MikM Offline
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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      @George-K you're a bit of a Malcolm Gladwell fan, right? Ever read/listen to his analysis of latino immigration? I think he has a compelling argument. I mean, it's been proven already.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @George-K you're a bit of a Malcolm Gladwell fan, right? Ever read/listen to his analysis of latino immigration? I think he has a compelling argument. I mean, it's been proven already.

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        George K
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        @aqua-letifer said in Pay to stay away:

        Ever read/listen to his analysis of latino immigration?

        Nope. Got link?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Mik

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          @mik said in Pay to stay away:

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          Yep.

          May work for awhile, but then it becomes an endless money pit...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • MikM Offline
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            The first thing to do is round up and kill all the gang and cartel members. I'm sure a few mistakes would be made, but likely less than what happens there on a daily basis.

            But we can't do that.

            The Romans may have been cruel but they were effective.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              Wait, how does giving more money to the corrupt and incompetent leaders of those countries help those poor people? All it does is further prop up the bad guys.

              The Brad

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                No problem

                We have an unlimited amount of money

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                • CopperC Copper

                  No problem

                  We have an unlimited amount of money

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  @copper said in Pay to stay away:

                  No problem

                  We have an unlimited amount of money

                  MMT, FTW!

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    I have always feel that the best way to fix the problem is to go to the "root cause". Build a wall/not build a wall, etc. is not going to stop people. And I am not just talking about the Mexico/US. Economic desperation is a problem. North Africa --> Europe; Stan countries --> Europe, China --> US, Burmese --> Thailand, etc etc etc

                    Now, as pointed above, many countries where the people are desperate have very corrupt governments. So, maybe giving money to them directly is not the answer. But, the ultimate answer lay's in solving the problems at the source, not at the end.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      I have always feel that the best way to fix the problem is to go to the "root cause". Build a wall/not build a wall, etc. is not going to stop people. And I am not just talking about the Mexico/US. Economic desperation is a problem. North Africa --> Europe; Stan countries --> Europe, China --> US, Burmese --> Thailand, etc etc etc

                      Now, as pointed above, many countries where the people are desperate have very corrupt governments. So, maybe giving money to them directly is not the answer. But, the ultimate answer lay's in solving the problems at the source, not at the end.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      @taiwan_girl said in Pay to stay away:

                      I have always feel that the best way to fix the problem is to go to the "root cause". Build a wall/not build a wall, etc. is not going to stop people. And I am not just talking about the Mexico/US. Economic desperation is a problem. North Africa --> Europe; Stan countries --> Europe, China --> US, Burmese --> Thailand, etc etc etc

                      Now, as pointed above, many countries where the people are desperate have very corrupt governments. So, maybe giving money to them directly is not the answer. But, the ultimate answer lay's in solving the problems at the source, not at the end.

                      There is not enough money in the world to fix the problem at the source.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        Why don’t they just pay me to go there?

                        The Brad

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                          Doesn’t U.S. demand for illegal drugs create the cartels?

                          Rival cartels are already way more cruel than anything that would be reasonable to ask a US soldier to do.

                          Maybe we decriminalize their drugs? I honestly don’t know what’s worse. Unfettered legal access to drugs or the existence of ruthless cartels.

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                            Doesn’t U.S. demand for illegal drugs create the cartels?

                            Rival cartels are already way more cruel than anything that would be reasonable to ask a US soldier to do.

                            Maybe we decriminalize their drugs? I honestly don’t know what’s worse. Unfettered legal access to drugs or the existence of ruthless cartels.

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                            @xenon said in Pay to stay away:

                            Doesn’t U.S. demand for illegal drugs create the cartels?

                            Rival cartels are already way more cruel than anything that would be reasonable to ask a US soldier to do.

                            Maybe we decriminalize their drugs? I honestly don’t know what’s worse. Unfettered legal access to drugs or the existence of ruthless cartels.

                            The U.S. welfare system subsidizes the illegal drug business.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Why don’t they just pay me to go there?

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                              @lufins-dad said in Pay to stay away:

                              Why don’t they just pay me to go there?

                              I'm sure they are in bad need of a piano store.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Biden Administration Offers Four Month Paid Leave To Federal Employees Who Care For Illegal Alien Children

                                https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-administration-offers-four-month-paid-leave-to-federal-employees-who-take-in-illegal-alien-children?fbclid=IwAR1262gY3v5juSqzBjk97n-ZcVznwbdsWM_cgI4ZWlbUqZaEUn4pZ-z5ddA

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Biden Administration Offers Four Month Paid Leave To Federal Employees Who Care For Illegal Alien Children

                                  https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-administration-offers-four-month-paid-leave-to-federal-employees-who-take-in-illegal-alien-children?fbclid=IwAR1262gY3v5juSqzBjk97n-ZcVznwbdsWM_cgI4ZWlbUqZaEUn4pZ-z5ddA

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                                  @mik said in Pay to stay away:

                                  Biden Administration Offers Four Month Paid Leave To Federal Employees Who Care For Illegal Alien Children

                                  (It's a half-full day)

                                  Perhaps the gummint will realize that these federal "workers" aren't essential and eliminate their positions saving millions of taxpayer dollars.

                                  Nah....

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @mik said in Pay to stay away:

                                    Biden Administration Offers Four Month Paid Leave To Federal Employees Who Care For Illegal Alien Children

                                    (It's a half-full day)

                                    Perhaps the gummint will realize that these federal "workers" aren't essential and eliminate their positions saving millions of taxpayer dollars.

                                    Nah....

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                                    @george-k said in Pay to stay away:

                                    @mik said in Pay to stay away:

                                    Biden Administration Offers Four Month Paid Leave To Federal Employees Who Care For Illegal Alien Children

                                    (It's a half-full day)

                                    Perhaps the gummint will realize that these federal "workers" aren't essential and eliminate their positions saving millions of taxpayer dollars.

                                    Nah....

                                    That was my first thought. “So you are admitting that these employees aren’t necessary for the running of the government...”

                                    The Brad

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                                      What I thought as well. I'm not necessarily opposed to the program as long as we pay them the going rate for day care workers.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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