What to tip?
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wrote on 2 May 2020, 22:38 last edited by
Yeah, the health insurance and benefits thing is definitely better over there. But guaranteed you make more here.
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Yeah, the health insurance and benefits thing is definitely better over there. But guaranteed you make more here.
wrote on 2 May 2020, 22:49 last edited by Klaus 5 Feb 2020, 23:02@Aqua-Letifer said in What to tip?:
Yeah, the health insurance and benefits thing is definitely better over there. But guaranteed you make more here.
You sure? Let's see. I looked up what a delivery guy for DHL makes on average.
Average salary is around 35K Euro per year. That salary includes full health insurance with no deductibles, pension insurance that pays around 60% of your salary after you retire, unemployment insurance that pays your salary for 12 months if you are fired, a nursing insurance that will pay for a nursing home etc., and a contract that only allows DHL to fire you if you do something stupid or if they run out of money. Also, you can afford to send all your kids to the best college in the country.
How does that compare to a similar job in the US?
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wrote on 2 May 2020, 23:01 last edited by
I made about 35k equivalent salary when I delivered, and that was in a very rural area and when I started, before I got a line cook's wages in addition to delivery fees and tips. Also, it was common practice not to declare tips.
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wrote on 2 May 2020, 23:39 last edited by
Wait, DHL is a package and freight service. The equivalent is UPS. They start at 42K and the pay increases with seniority up to $110K or so with 25 years. And they aren’t tipped except for holidays...
What Aqua and most of the US contingent are discussing is food delivery. Generally meal delivery, but also the newer phenomenon of grocery delivery.
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wrote on 3 May 2020, 13:00 last edited by
We’ve been taking out once a week at restaurants, some we would would normally eat at. I’ve been leaving a 20% tip when I go pick stuff up. Even at the pizza places that I didn’t used to tip at for carry out. It’s interesting, one of the smaller places said they are actually doing a better business now with takeout than they ever did with sit-down.
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wrote on 3 May 2020, 14:42 last edited by
Why are we being so empathetic and supportive of restaurants, but nothing for other businesses? Have you ordered flowers from your favorite florist? Bought a gift card from your hair salon for after this over? Ordered a Bosendorfer from your local piano store?
I’m only partially teasing. Why so much love for restaurants and not as much for other businesses? The restaurant biz has always been high risk - low reward to begin with, and coming out of this, I think you will see a massive shift. I think the inexpensive “convenience food” places will shift to smaller layouts designed for takeout with less sit down business. I am talking about Five Guys, Chipotle, etc...I think the moderate prices chains that are dependent on high volume and table turnover (TGI Friday’s, Outback, Olive Garden, etc...) are dead in the water without a MAJOR overhaul and reimagining, and your finer sit down restaurants are going to have to reduce seating, meaning there will have to be corresponding increases in price. Your $40 per plate steakhouse just became $60 per plate.
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wrote on 3 May 2020, 14:46 last edited by
It'll have to go up more than that to accommodate 50% of the current capacity at max.
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wrote on 3 May 2020, 19:15 last edited by
My prediction: some higher-end restaurants usually accustomed to a lot of sit-down income might try to invest in better take-out presentation as a way to justify their business.
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wrote on 3 May 2020, 19:25 last edited by
I agree. Our eating out is going to be carry out for some time to come.
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Why are we being so empathetic and supportive of restaurants, but nothing for other businesses? Have you ordered flowers from your favorite florist? Bought a gift card from your hair salon for after this over? Ordered a Bosendorfer from your local piano store?
I’m only partially teasing. Why so much love for restaurants and not as much for other businesses? The restaurant biz has always been high risk - low reward to begin with, and coming out of this, I think you will see a massive shift. I think the inexpensive “convenience food” places will shift to smaller layouts designed for takeout with less sit down business. I am talking about Five Guys, Chipotle, etc...I think the moderate prices chains that are dependent on high volume and table turnover (TGI Friday’s, Outback, Olive Garden, etc...) are dead in the water without a MAJOR overhaul and reimagining, and your finer sit down restaurants are going to have to reduce seating, meaning there will have to be corresponding increases in price. Your $40 per plate steakhouse just became $60 per plate.
wrote on 3 May 2020, 22:02 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in What to tip?:
Why are we being so empathetic and supportive of restaurants, but nothing for other businesses? Have you ordered flowers from your favorite florist? Bought a gift card from your hair salon for after this over? Ordered a Bosendorfer from your local piano store?
I’m only partially teasing. Why so much love for restaurants and not as much for other businesses? The restaurant biz has always been high risk - low reward to begin with, and coming out of this, I think you will see a massive shift. I think the inexpensive “convenience food” places will shift to smaller layouts designed for takeout with less sit down business. I am talking about Five Guys, Chipotle, etc...I think the moderate prices chains that are dependent on high volume and table turnover (TGI Friday’s, Outback, Olive Garden, etc...) are dead in the water without a MAJOR overhaul and reimagining, and your finer sit down restaurants are going to have to reduce seating, meaning there will have to be corresponding increases in price. Your $40 per plate steakhouse just became $60 per plate.
That's right, good question.
At least the restaurant is open.
It is interesting that they get the sympathy.
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My prediction: some higher-end restaurants usually accustomed to a lot of sit-down income might try to invest in better take-out presentation as a way to justify their business.
wrote on 4 May 2020, 16:04 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in What to tip?:
My prediction: some higher-end restaurants usually accustomed to a lot of sit-down income might try to invest in better take-out presentation as a way to justify their business.
There are some high price restaurants that are doing just like that. There was a couple in Chicago, USA, which are serving drive up/pick up meals with heating and serving instructions with the meals cost between $25 and $50USD per person. They did some meal and had abut 1000 orders.
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Why are we being so empathetic and supportive of restaurants, but nothing for other businesses? Have you ordered flowers from your favorite florist? Bought a gift card from your hair salon for after this over? Ordered a Bosendorfer from your local piano store?
I’m only partially teasing. Why so much love for restaurants and not as much for other businesses? The restaurant biz has always been high risk - low reward to begin with, and coming out of this, I think you will see a massive shift. I think the inexpensive “convenience food” places will shift to smaller layouts designed for takeout with less sit down business. I am talking about Five Guys, Chipotle, etc...I think the moderate prices chains that are dependent on high volume and table turnover (TGI Friday’s, Outback, Olive Garden, etc...) are dead in the water without a MAJOR overhaul and reimagining, and your finer sit down restaurants are going to have to reduce seating, meaning there will have to be corresponding increases in price. Your $40 per plate steakhouse just became $60 per plate.
wrote on 4 May 2020, 16:10 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in What to tip?:
Why are we being so empathetic and supportive of restaurants, but nothing for other businesses? Have you ordered flowers from your favorite florist? Bought a gift card from your hair salon for after this over? Ordered a Bosendorfer from your local piano store?
Mrs. Phibes bought two $100 gift certificates from the local hair salon, and I am personally doing everything in my power to keep the local liquor store turning over a nice profit. It's a big sacrifice, but what the heck.
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@LuFins-Dad said in What to tip?:
Why are we being so empathetic and supportive of restaurants, but nothing for other businesses? Have you ordered flowers from your favorite florist? Bought a gift card from your hair salon for after this over? Ordered a Bosendorfer from your local piano store?
Mrs. Phibes bought two $100 gift certificates from the local hair salon, and I am personally doing everything in my power to keep the local liquor store turning over a nice profit. It's a big sacrifice, but what the heck.
wrote on 8 May 2020, 20:18 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in What to tip?:
. It's a big sacrifice, but what the heck.
Nice job by Mrs. Phibes. I'm sure the salon welcomed it.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in What to tip?:
. It's a big sacrifice, but what the heck.
Nice job by Mrs. Phibes. I'm sure the salon welcomed it.
wrote on 8 May 2020, 22:00 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in What to tip?:
@Doctor-Phibes said in What to tip?:
. It's a big sacrifice, but what the heck.
Nice job by Mrs. Phibes. I'm sure the salon welcomed it.
The woman who owns it has been great - she gave us toilet paper and hand sanitizer in exchange for Mrs. Phibes doing some sewing for her, and went online with us when Mrs. Phibes cut my hair as well as lending us some clippers. She says she needs to come up with $10K a month to cover rent. I figure buying some gift certificates is the least we can do.
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wrote on 8 May 2020, 22:40 last edited by
Hopefully all landlords including commercial landlords are being relaxed with rent payments. It’s a big ripple effect...