Vaccination etiquette question

[Aqua Letifer]

@loki said in Vaccination etiquette question:

The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur and increasing the chance that it will be deadlier and/or render your current vaccine very significantly less effective.

Good points. Beyond that there's also the whole, y'know, how much it would suck if someone more vulnerable were to get permanently fucked up or die because some unvaccinated jackass spread the disease around. Be kinda nice if there were some way that could be more or less prevented.

[taiwan_girl]

And none of the vaccines are 100% effective.

So, it makes sense that if everybody is vaccinated, then the chances of catching it are much much smaller.

Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID by a little bit.

[Aqua Letifer]

@taiwan_girl said in Vaccination etiquette question:

Every un- vaccinated person increases the odds of getting COVID and making COVID worse on a global scale by a little bit.

FIFY.

[Jolly]

The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.

Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?

[Copper]

This is the kind of panic that will make reasonable people crazy for years to come.

Panic.

What exactly is my danger if I have been vaccinated?

Yes, I know, I know, BEWARE! the vaccine IS NOT PERFECT!!!

OK, so exactly how imperfect is it?

I'm ready to drop the masks as soon as everyone who wants the vaccine has the vaccine, at the latest.

I'm ready to drop my mask now. I have the vaccine, I trust it.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.

Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?

Another one - we have a mutation where the mortality rate is 5%, or 10%.

Honestly, refusing to get vaccinated without a bloody good reason is unconscionable.

[Jolly]

@doctor-phibes said in Vaccination etiquette question:

@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

The longer the virus is out there, the more mutations that will occur.

Possible scenario: We have a case where the vaccine no longer can keep up. What will life look like?

Another one - we have a mutation where the mortality rate is 5%, or 10%.

Honestly, refusing to get vaccinated without a bloody good reason is unconscionable.

It's not refusing, people will be taking what's available, similar to the flu vaccine. But I don't see Americans continuing to live masked up and sanitized.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jolly said in Vaccination etiquette question:

It's not refusing, people will be taking what's available, similar to the flu vaccine. But I don't see Americans continuing to live masked up and sanitized.

There are plenty of people indicating that they're going to remain unvaccinated, and don't trust the vaccines - that's what I was referring to. Obviously, if somebody hasn't been offered a vaccine, there's not a whole lot they can do about it.

[Renauda]

@copper said in Vaccination etiquette question:

I'm ready to drop my mask now. I have the vaccine, I trust it.

Fine by me. Not only have you been vaccinated but you have also had COVID in the last six months. You're invulnerable to it now. You probably cannot vector it either.

Perhaps you should volunteer to help in Brazilian hospitals.

There is no panic from what I can see.

[Copper]

Here we are 20 years later with TSA still trying to prevent 9/11

It's the same panic

9/11 is over, you can't stop it, but the TSA continues to try

[Doctor Phibes]

@copper said in Vaccination etiquette question:

Here we are 20 years later with TSA still trying to prevent 9/11

It's the same panic

9/11 is over, you can't stop it, but the TSA continues to try

I think the general idea is to stop it happening again.

Reliance on 'Lightning doesn't strike twice' isn't a very good survival strategy, particularly, it has to be said, if you're a steeplejack.

[Jolly]

@renauda said in Vaccination etiquette question:

@copper said in Vaccination etiquette question:

I'm ready to drop my mask now. I have the vaccine, I trust it.

Fine by me. Not only have you been vaccinated but you have also had COVID in the last six months. You're invulnerable to it now. You probably cannot vector it either.

Perhaps you should volunteer to help in Brazilian hospitals.

There is no panic from what I can see.

Nah, but a nice Canadian vacation? Some places up there even speak English...

[Renauda]

@jolly

Canadian border with US remains closed to non essential travel and Trump supporting libertarian bean counters.

[Mik]

There's a big difference between panic and caution.

[Jolly]

@renauda said in Vaccination etiquette question:

@jolly

Canadian border with US remains closed to non essential travel and Trump supporting libertarian bean counters.

How do you feel about illegal Mexicans and Central Americans?

[Renauda]

@jolly

Not as bad as you folks do, they prefer your weather to ours.

[Loki]

@doctor-phibes said in Vaccination etiquette question:

@copper said in Vaccination etiquette question:

Here we are 20 years later with TSA still trying to prevent 9/11

It's the same panic

9/11 is over, you can't stop it, but the TSA continues to try

I think the general idea is to stop it happening again.

Reliance on 'Lightning doesn't strike twice' isn't a very good survival strategy, particularly, it has to be said, if you're a steeplejack.

Actually the two drivers may be confidence of the flying public and government jobs to dole out at this point.