Here’s the thing about the media
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When you have 60 Minutes getting caught obviously manipulating the story, hiding the truth and promoting a false narrative, then people aren’t going to believe you anymore.
When you have the national media promote the story of 5 people being killed at the January 6th protest and 3 months later the only person that can be proven to have been “killed” is one of the protesters, you strain the public credulity,
When you have an absolutely ridiculous lie about the nature of the Georgia election law continue to be repeated as gospel by the media, when the truth is painful easy to see and research, the public loses trust.
Is it any wonder why so many people immediately believe the opposite of whatever is written?
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So your preferred narrative is “the media lie,” perhaps with a corollary to “believe the opposite of what you see in the media”, is that it?
Are “the media” all the same?
Is it really workable for you to function in contemporary US society to completely ignore all “the media” or to always believe the opposite of whatever you see in “the media”?
If not, then it comes down to curation — how do you pick what to read, how do you evaluate what you read, and from there form your believes.
Taking this a step further, there is also the matter of what concrete acts do you perform to maintain or promote the sort of “media” you would to see more off.
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So your preferred narrative is “the media lie,” perhaps with a corollary to “believe the opposite of what you see in the media”, is that it?
Are “the media” all the same?
Is it really workable for you to function in contemporary US society to completely ignore all “the media” or to always believe the opposite of whatever you see in “the media”?
If not, then it comes down to curation — how do you pick what to read, how do you evaluate what you read, and from there form your believes.
Taking this a step further, there is also the matter of what concrete acts do you perform to maintain or promote the sort of “media” you would to see more off.
@axtremus said in Here’s the thing about the media:
So your preferred narrative is “the media lie,” perhaps with a corollary to “believe the opposite of what you see in the media”, is that it?
Are “the media” all the same?
Is it really workable for you to function in contemporary US society to completely ignore all “the media” or to always believe the opposite of whatever you see in “the media”?
If not, then it comes down to curation — how do you pick what to read, how do you evaluate what you read, and from there form your believes.
Taking this a step further, there is also the matter of what concrete acts do you perform to maintain or promote the sort of “media” you would to see more off.
I'll start with believing anything you write is bullshit.
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So your preferred narrative is “the media lie,” perhaps with a corollary to “believe the opposite of what you see in the media”, is that it?
Are “the media” all the same?
Is it really workable for you to function in contemporary US society to completely ignore all “the media” or to always believe the opposite of whatever you see in “the media”?
If not, then it comes down to curation — how do you pick what to read, how do you evaluate what you read, and from there form your believes.
Taking this a step further, there is also the matter of what concrete acts do you perform to maintain or promote the sort of “media” you would to see more off.
@axtremus said in Here’s the thing about the media:
If not, then it comes down to curation — how do you pick what to read, how do you evaluate what you read, and from there form your believes.
All good questions, Ax, especially the one above.
As Aqua said yesterday, you see what you curate. If you make a habit of clicking on news sites that you disbelieve -- guess what you're going to get?
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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As the great German philosopher Paul Simon once said, people have a tendency to believe what they want to believe, and to disregard the rest. People on both sides of the political divide frequently complain about the media they don't like, and then post links to the most ridiculous websites making bizarre claims.
There's only really a motivation to change if people hold the news services who have the views they agree with accountable, rather than just bitching about the guys on the other team.
I don't see any sign of that happening.
I was only joking
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@axtremus said in Here’s the thing about the media:
If not, then it comes down to curation — how do you pick what to read, how do you evaluate what you read, and from there form your believes.
All good questions, Ax, especially the one above.
As Aqua said yesterday, you see what you curate. If you make a habit of clicking on news sites that you disbelieve -- guess what you're going to get?
@catseye3 said in Here’s the thing about the media:
@axtremus said in Here’s the thing about the media:
If not, then it comes down to curation — how do you pick what to read, how do you evaluate what you read, and from there form your believes.
All good questions, Ax, especially the one above.
As Aqua said yesterday, you see what you curate. If you make a habit of clicking on news sites that you disbelieve -- guess what you're going to get?
Bullshit?
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As the great German philosopher Paul Simon once said, people have a tendency to believe what they want to believe, and to disregard the rest. People on both sides of the political divide frequently complain about the media they don't like, and then post links to the most ridiculous websites making bizarre claims.
There's only really a motivation to change if people hold the news services who have the views they agree with accountable, rather than just bitching about the guys on the other team.
I don't see any sign of that happening.
@doctor-phibes said in Here’s the thing about the media:
As the great German philosopher Paul Simon once said, people have a tendency to believe what they want to believe, and to disregard the rest. People on both sides of the political divide frequently complain about the media they don't like, and then post links to the most ridiculous websites making bizarre claims.
There's only really a motivation to change if people hold the news services who have the views they agree with accountable, rather than just bitching about the guys on the other team.
I don't see any sign of that happening.
@doctor-phibes said in Here’s the thing about the media:
As the great German philosopher Paul Simon once said, people have a tendency to believe what they want to believe, and to disregard the rest. People on both sides of the political divide frequently complain about the media they don't like, and then post links to the most ridiculous websites making bizarre claims.
There's only really a motivation to change if people hold the news services who have the views they agree with accountable, rather than just bitching about the guys on the other team.
I don't see any sign of that happening.
Sorta.
Media today makes its money by constantly agitating and dividing people. It does so, because of the 24hr news cycle, content needs and guaranteed eyeballs due to silo-casting.
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Speaking of, I have noticed of late that more and more, non-news is given headline status, when the item doesn't deserve media space, much less headline media space.
Recently I went through the Google News site and put a mental check mark against all the items that didn't qualify to be thought newsworthy. Really stupid non-items like that McConnell condemns something the Democrats said or did.
No, really?
Oh, for the days news actually competed for limited broadcast room! That's not necessary anymore. And given the human proclivity to gravitate to bad news, guess what gets emphasis? And in turn generates more of the same.
Here are some positive news sites: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/need-some-good-news-for-a-change-top-5-good-news-web-sites/
We just need to be careful we don't turn into sappy-headed (and annoying) ueber-optimists.
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That is why this forum board is so good. We have a good mix of people with different opinions. I read articles I maybe would not normally read, sometimes it changes my mind, sometimes it doesn't, but at least it makes me think and see things from a different side.
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That is why this forum board is so good. We have a good mix of people with different opinions. I read articles I maybe would not normally read, sometimes it changes my mind, sometimes it doesn't, but at least it makes me think and see things from a different side.
@taiwan_girl said in Here’s the thing about the media:
That is why this forum board is so good. We have a good mix of people with different opinions. I read articles I maybe would not normally read, sometimes it changes my mind, sometimes it doesn't, but at least it makes me think and see things from a different side.
And also you've been convinced that presidents have a huge effect on the economy, and especially the stock market. I believe that's the greatest gift this forum has given to you.
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@taiwan_girl said in Here’s the thing about the media:
That is why this forum board is so good. We have a good mix of people with different opinions. I read articles I maybe would not normally read, sometimes it changes my mind, sometimes it doesn't, but at least it makes me think and see things from a different side.
And also you've been convinced that presidents have a huge effect on the economy, and especially the stock market. I believe that's the greatest gift this forum has given to you.
@horace said in Here’s the thing about the media:
@taiwan_girl said in Here’s the thing about the media:
That is why this forum board is so good. We have a good mix of people with different opinions. I read articles I maybe would not normally read, sometimes it changes my mind, sometimes it doesn't, but at least it makes me think and see things from a different side.
And also you've been convinced that presidents have a huge effect on the economy, and especially the stock market. I believe that's the greatest gift this forum has given to you.
No, the greatest gift is the funny pictures thread.
That and getting to tease you. That's priceless.
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