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Trump may hang a skin on the wall.

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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years. She is past her political shelf life anyhow. She ought to retire from politics and take up Board work or some kind of community volunteer work.

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    @renauda said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

    I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years

    In December 2002, Murkowski—while a member of the state House—was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to fill his own U.S. Senate seat made vacant when he resigned from the Senate after being elected governor.

    The appointment caused controversy in Alaska. Many voters disapproved of the nepotism. Her appointment eventually resulted in a referendum that stripped the governor of his power to directly appoint replacement Senators.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • X xenon

      You can only really be for broad principles ahead of an election (lower taxes, more/less medicare, higher/lower environmental regs, etc. etc.)

      But - most of the actual decisions you will face as a representative will not be tied to specific things you ran on.

      Question is - do you govern by your principles, or do you govern by poll?

      If you're governing by poll, what's the use of a representative and why don't we just have direct democracy?

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      @xenon said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

      Question is - do you govern by your principles, or do you govern by poll?
      If you're governing by poll, what's the use of a representative and why don't we just have direct democracy?

      David Cameron governed by poll much more than previous PM's. What a freaking disaster that turned into.

      We get the chance to kick them out once every few years. We shouldn't be micromanaging them in the interim with referenda. Presumably, this woman will be get her just reward, too.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @xenon said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

        Question is - do you govern by your principles, or do you govern by poll?
        If you're governing by poll, what's the use of a representative and why don't we just have direct democracy?

        David Cameron governed by poll much more than previous PM's. What a freaking disaster that turned into.

        We get the chance to kick them out once every few years. We shouldn't be micromanaging them in the interim with referenda. Presumably, this woman will be get her just reward, too.

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        @doctor-phibes said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

        We get the chance to kick them out once every few years. We shouldn't be micromanaging them in the interim with referenda. Presumably, this woman will be get her just reward, too.

        Sen. Murkowski once lost the GOP primary then ran a write-in campaign to get herself reelected as Senator. The people of Alaska really wanted her at one point, not that long ago.

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        • George KG George K

          @renauda said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

          I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years

          In December 2002, Murkowski—while a member of the state House—was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to fill his own U.S. Senate seat made vacant when he resigned from the Senate after being elected governor.

          The appointment caused controversy in Alaska. Many voters disapproved of the nepotism. Her appointment eventually resulted in a referendum that stripped the governor of his power to directly appoint replacement Senators.

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          @george-k said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

          @renauda said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

          I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years

          In December 2002, Murkowski—while a member of the state House—was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to fill his own U.S. Senate seat made vacant when he resigned from the Senate after being elected governor.

          The appointment caused controversy in Alaska. Many voters disapproved of the nepotism. Her appointment eventually resulted in a referendum that stripped the governor of his power to directly appoint replacement Senators.

          Yes indeed, time to leave.

          On the other hand, I applaud her for taking leadership and voting according to her conscience regarding Trump. The rabble by itself is at best only capable of a trade union mentality which, as we all know, is quite politically undesirable in the large scheme of things.

          Elbows up!

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            Everybody loves an independent thinker as long as they don't independently think of something we don't agree with.

            I was only joking

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              So true.

              Elbows up!

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                Who ever said everybody loves an independent thinker?

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Major Amos B. Hoople.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    Who ever said everybody loves an independent thinker?

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @horace said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                    Who ever said everybody loves an independent thinker?

                    I just did.

                    I was only joking

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                      “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

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                      • L Loki

                        “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

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                        @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                        “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                        Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                          “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                          Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

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                          @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                          @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                          “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                          Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                          Is there an important part of the the swing vote electorate who care about immigration law, to the extent they can think beyond "kids in cages bad"?

                          I know Latinos tend to be in that group, being socially allowed to think and speak clearly on that topic. I wonder if any white people are in that group. Definitely not any California Democrats.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                            @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                            “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                            Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                            Is there an important part of the the swing vote electorate who care about immigration law, to the extent they can think beyond "kids in cages bad"?

                            I know Latinos tend to be in that group, being socially allowed to think and speak clearly on that topic. I wonder if any white people are in that group. Definitely not any California Democrats.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #25

                            @horace said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                            @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                            @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                            “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                            Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                            Is there an important part of the the swing vote electorate who care about immigration law, to the extent they can think beyond "kids in cages bad"?

                            I know Latinos tend to be in that group, being socially allowed to think and speak clearly on that topic. I wonder if any white people are in that group. Definitely not any California Democrats.

                            Trump got 33% of the latino vote. Y'all chew on that awhile...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @horace said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                              @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                              @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                              “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                              Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                              Is there an important part of the the swing vote electorate who care about immigration law, to the extent they can think beyond "kids in cages bad"?

                              I know Latinos tend to be in that group, being socially allowed to think and speak clearly on that topic. I wonder if any white people are in that group. Definitely not any California Democrats.

                              Trump got 33% of the latino vote. Y'all chew on that awhile...

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #26

                              @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                              Trump got 33% of the latino vote.

                              That's about 98% in Trump numbers.

                              I was only joking

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