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Trump may hang a skin on the wall.

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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #6

    You can only really be for broad principles ahead of an election (lower taxes, more/less medicare, higher/lower environmental regs, etc. etc.)

    But - most of the actual decisions you will face as a representative will not be tied to specific things you ran on.

    Question is - do you govern by your principles, or do you govern by poll?

    If you're governing by poll, what's the use of a representative and why don't we just have direct democracy?

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      Copper
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      Nobody believes polls anymore.

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        Axtremus
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        Alaska can always elect an Independent or Democratic U.S. Senator.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          Alaska can always elect an Independent or Democratic U.S. Senator.

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          Jolly
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          #9

          @axtremus said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

          Alaska can always elect an Independent or Democratic U.S. Senator.

          Sure.

          What are the odds?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Horace
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            #10

            Alaskans tend to be intelligent and good looking, which is why they elect republicans.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @axtremus said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

              Alaska can always elect an Independent or Democratic U.S. Senator.

              Sure.

              What are the odds?

              Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

              @axtremus said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

              Alaska can always elect an Independent or Democratic U.S. Senator.

              Sure.

              What are the odds?

              Maybe when hell freezes over?

              Of course, if you've ever visited Alaska, you might be forgiven for thinking that it had.

              I was only joking

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                Renauda
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                I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years. She is past her political shelf life anyhow. She ought to retire from politics and take up Board work or some kind of community volunteer work.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years. She is past her political shelf life anyhow. She ought to retire from politics and take up Board work or some kind of community volunteer work.

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                  @renauda said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                  I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years

                  In December 2002, Murkowski—while a member of the state House—was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to fill his own U.S. Senate seat made vacant when he resigned from the Senate after being elected governor.

                  The appointment caused controversy in Alaska. Many voters disapproved of the nepotism. Her appointment eventually resulted in a referendum that stripped the governor of his power to directly appoint replacement Senators.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • X xenon

                    You can only really be for broad principles ahead of an election (lower taxes, more/less medicare, higher/lower environmental regs, etc. etc.)

                    But - most of the actual decisions you will face as a representative will not be tied to specific things you ran on.

                    Question is - do you govern by your principles, or do you govern by poll?

                    If you're governing by poll, what's the use of a representative and why don't we just have direct democracy?

                    Doctor PhibesD Online
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    @xenon said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                    Question is - do you govern by your principles, or do you govern by poll?
                    If you're governing by poll, what's the use of a representative and why don't we just have direct democracy?

                    David Cameron governed by poll much more than previous PM's. What a freaking disaster that turned into.

                    We get the chance to kick them out once every few years. We shouldn't be micromanaging them in the interim with referenda. Presumably, this woman will be get her just reward, too.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @xenon said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                      Question is - do you govern by your principles, or do you govern by poll?
                      If you're governing by poll, what's the use of a representative and why don't we just have direct democracy?

                      David Cameron governed by poll much more than previous PM's. What a freaking disaster that turned into.

                      We get the chance to kick them out once every few years. We shouldn't be micromanaging them in the interim with referenda. Presumably, this woman will be get her just reward, too.

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                      Axtremus
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                      @doctor-phibes said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                      We get the chance to kick them out once every few years. We shouldn't be micromanaging them in the interim with referenda. Presumably, this woman will be get her just reward, too.

                      Sen. Murkowski once lost the GOP primary then ran a write-in campaign to get herself reelected as Senator. The people of Alaska really wanted her at one point, not that long ago.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @renauda said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                        I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years

                        In December 2002, Murkowski—while a member of the state House—was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to fill his own U.S. Senate seat made vacant when he resigned from the Senate after being elected governor.

                        The appointment caused controversy in Alaska. Many voters disapproved of the nepotism. Her appointment eventually resulted in a referendum that stripped the governor of his power to directly appoint replacement Senators.

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                        Renauda
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                        @george-k said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                        @renauda said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                        I see that she's been elected to the Senate now for close to twenty years

                        In December 2002, Murkowski—while a member of the state House—was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to fill his own U.S. Senate seat made vacant when he resigned from the Senate after being elected governor.

                        The appointment caused controversy in Alaska. Many voters disapproved of the nepotism. Her appointment eventually resulted in a referendum that stripped the governor of his power to directly appoint replacement Senators.

                        Yes indeed, time to leave.

                        On the other hand, I applaud her for taking leadership and voting according to her conscience regarding Trump. The rabble by itself is at best only capable of a trade union mentality which, as we all know, is quite politically undesirable in the large scheme of things.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #17

                          Everybody loves an independent thinker as long as they don't independently think of something we don't agree with.

                          I was only joking

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                            Renauda
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                            So true.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • HoraceH Online
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                              Horace
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                              #19

                              Who ever said everybody loves an independent thinker?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Renauda
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                                Major Amos B. Hoople.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  Who ever said everybody loves an independent thinker?

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @horace said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                  Who ever said everybody loves an independent thinker?

                                  I just did.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Loki
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                                    “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                                    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

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                                      “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                      “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                                      Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                        “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                                        Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                                        HoraceH Online
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                        @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                        “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                                        Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                                        Is there an important part of the the swing vote electorate who care about immigration law, to the extent they can think beyond "kids in cages bad"?

                                        I know Latinos tend to be in that group, being socially allowed to think and speak clearly on that topic. I wonder if any white people are in that group. Definitely not any California Democrats.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                          @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                          “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                                          Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                                          Is there an important part of the the swing vote electorate who care about immigration law, to the extent they can think beyond "kids in cages bad"?

                                          I know Latinos tend to be in that group, being socially allowed to think and speak clearly on that topic. I wonder if any white people are in that group. Definitely not any California Democrats.

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                                          Jolly
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                                          #25

                                          @horace said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                          @jolly said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                          @loki said in Trump may hang a skin on the wall.:

                                          “Safe” journeys being advertised on FB. Book now before the walls make it tougher.

                                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/human-smugglers-use-facebook-connect-migrants-spread-false-hope-reaching-n1262984

                                          Never fear, Mr. Biden is strongly considering starting back constructing The Wall. Now, I'm sure he'll blame it on Trump...Funds already appropriated or some such BS.

                                          Is there an important part of the the swing vote electorate who care about immigration law, to the extent they can think beyond "kids in cages bad"?

                                          I know Latinos tend to be in that group, being socially allowed to think and speak clearly on that topic. I wonder if any white people are in that group. Definitely not any California Democrats.

                                          Trump got 33% of the latino vote. Y'all chew on that awhile...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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