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We are for human rights again!

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    I think the question of China swallowing Taiwan is not if, but when?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

      There is a lot of anger in Myanmar towards mainland china right now.

      Thanks TG, always enjoy reading your input.

      Have you ever been to Burma aka Myanmar? From what I have learned, it's a basket case

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      @rainman said in We are for human rights again!:

      @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

      There is a lot of anger in Myanmar towards mainland china right now.

      Thanks TG, always enjoy reading your input.

      Have you ever been to Burma aka Myanmar? From what I have learned, it's a basket case

      Unfortunately no. I had a chance a year or so ago. We were working on a project that would help Yangoon, but it never got past discussion so I did not get to go. I agree, it is in deep problems for sure.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I think the question of China swallowing Taiwan is not if, but when?

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        @jolly said in We are for human rights again!:

        I think the question of China swallowing Taiwan is not if, but when?

        Shhh! I am going to close my ears!!!

        (But unfortunately, you may be right. Obviously, Taiwan cannot handle China by ourselfs. It would depend on the response of the rest of the world. Right now, the cost for China to try and take Taiwan is too high. I ultimately think that the cost would have to be on the economic side. Make China realize that if they did try and take Taiwan, really high sanctions, businesses pulling out, etc. would be the result.

        I believe (maybe just hoping) that China needs the world export market more than the world market needs the labour/manufacturing that China provides right now.)

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          @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

          It would depend on the response of the rest of the world.

          Yes, same thing with the Baltic States and reliance on NATO.

          The thing is, it's not the Chinese people. We keep referring to China, but the devil is the CCP. They are communist and should be treated as such, the people have no choice. Nice parades, though.

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          • RainmanR Rainman

            @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

            It would depend on the response of the rest of the world.

            Yes, same thing with the Baltic States and reliance on NATO.

            The thing is, it's not the Chinese people. We keep referring to China, but the devil is the CCP. They are communist and should be treated as such, the people have no choice. Nice parades, though.

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            @rainman said in We are for human rights again!:

            @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

            It would depend on the response of the rest of the world.

            Yes, same thing with the Baltic States and reliance on NATO.

            The thing is, it's not the Chinese people. We keep referring to China, but the devil is the CCP. They are communist and should be treated as such, the people have no choice. Nice parades, though.

            Do the people want a choice? China does not appear to me to be a culture highly dissatisfied with its government.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • RainmanR Rainman

              @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

              It would depend on the response of the rest of the world.

              Yes, same thing with the Baltic States and reliance on NATO.

              The thing is, it's not the Chinese people. We keep referring to China, but the devil is the CCP. They are communist and should be treated as such, the people have no choice. Nice parades, though.

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              @rainman said in We are for human rights again!:

              The thing is, it's not the Chinese people. We keep referring to China, but the devil is the CCP. They are communist and should be treated as such, the people have no choice.

              Yeah, and I think that's a pretty good moron litmus test. Those who don't know that aren't really worth speaking with.

              Please love yourself.

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                China announces sanctions on individuals, entities in U.S., Canada
                https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-canada/china-announces-sanctions-on-individuals-entities-in-u-s-canada-idUSKBN2BJ0DW

                ... in response to sanctions imposed on Chinese citizens and groups over Xinjiang.
                .
                China would impose sanctions on the chair of the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) Gayle Manchin and the vice chair of the USCIRF Tony Perkins, the Chinese foreign ministry said in a statement.
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                China has also sanctioned Canadian member of parliament Michael Chong and the Subcommittee on International Human Rights of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development of the House of Commons of Canada, ...

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                  Curious to see China’s reactions and countermeasures.

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-xinjiang-retail/chinese-apps-join-celebs-in-backlash-against-western-fashion-brands-over-xinjiang-idUSKBN2BI1DI

                  China’s top ride-hailing app dropped Swedish fashion retailer H&M from its listings as Chinese celebrities stopped endorsing foreign labels in a growing uproar over Western accusations of forced labour in Xinjiang.
                  ...

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @rainman said in We are for human rights again!:

                    The thing is, it's not the Chinese people. We keep referring to China, but the devil is the CCP. They are communist and should be treated as such, the people have no choice.

                    Yeah, and I think that's a pretty good moron litmus test. Those who don't know that aren't really worth speaking with.

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                    @aqua-letifer said in We are for human rights again!:

                    @rainman said in We are for human rights again!:

                    The thing is, it's not the Chinese people. We keep referring to China, but the devil is the CCP. They are communist and should be treated as such, the people have no choice.

                    Yeah, and I think that's a pretty good moron litmus test. Those who don't know that aren't really worth speaking with.

                    Lot of economically satisfied morons, then...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Yup, the Chinese economy has grown a super lot consistently over the past 20 years or so.

                      But it has moved to the point that it needs the "external" or export economy to keep that growth. So, it needs to be shown that any bad moves made by mainland china will have significant economic impact to it.

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